Who wins? Froch v Bute?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by David UK, May 14, 2009.


  1. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    I'd give it to Froch, although it'd be tough for him, he'd loose all the early rounds and would really have to wear Bute down.
     
  2. Boxing in montr

    Boxing in montr Mandatory challenger Full Member

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    BIg Bill, look at the first minute of round 12, he was trading shots with Andrade. After that, he was in suvival mode.
     
  3. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    You're just an idiot showing limited boxing knowledge so I'll explain it to you.......

    .......If Froch loses to Bute he won't become a 'nobody' since he has already reached a level where one loss just doesn't relegate him as such. He's WBC champion who has beaten two fighters better than anything Andrade has on his record. Andrade's most notable fights are LOSING ones. The difference shouldn't really need to be explained but there are some twats on the General Forum and some even thought taylor would beat Froch!!!:yep
     
  4. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He doesn't need to do anything better than Bute, because there are things to offset those advantages. Did Andrade do anything better than Bute? Because many people thought Andrade knocked him out. As for your question, Froch has the superior power, stamina and chin, and is also an agressive/counter puncher boxer which IMO, will be massive problems for Bute who couldn't hold off Andrade for 12 rounds. As i mentioned earlier in this thread, Froch punches a lot harder than Andrade, is smarter with his pressure and is a better boxer. Once Froch starts upping the pressure in the second half of the fight, i can't how Bute will keep him off.
     
  5. THN

    THN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And he did, well apart from the last 15 sec. And now Pascal is a world beater!!! bc. Froch could'nt finish him?
    Limited boxing knowledge = Sure, comming from a Froch supporter :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  6. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    I hope you're right but in the UK I'm sure Froch will be betting favourite whilst in Canada the reverse will probably be true.

    I had one days wages on Froch to beat Taylor and as long as the odds on Froch aren't ridiculous will do the same if this fight is made.
     
  7. dhralf

    dhralf **** the queen! Full Member

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    C'mon...OK...Taylor is a BIGGER (better, not sure) name than anything Andrade has beaten but Stieglitz is better than Pascal and Kessler is better than Taylor, so ''has beaten two fighters better than anything Andrade has on his record'' is not totally true!

    A little bit biased, a little bit of exaggeration....ONLY ON ESB :lol:
     
  8. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stop that crazy **** please. He was too exhausted to move.
     
  9. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Andrade had a better stamina and a better inside game tha Bute. Froch doesn't have an inside game.

    The only reason Andrade could knock Bute is because he tired him. Bute's chin was solid against Berrio, who probably has more one punch power than Froch. So your assumption Froch has a better chin is to be proven. After all, he was knocked down by Taylor, who's not a KO artist, especially at SMW. Same thing for the stamina. Bute have always had the better stamina, except against Andrade. Froch hasn't faced someone like Andrade so we don't know how his stamina would hold. Another assumption to be proven. Taylor's incapacity to adapt in a ring cost him the fight, Froch's ability to do it won him the fight. No advantage here on Bute, who's very smart in a ring. What's for sure is Froch doesn't put pressure like Andrade. What's left for Froch then? He has some more pop but Bute has the same KO percentage, is as tall, bigger, faster with his hands and feet. Bute is a southpaw with good lateral movement. It's all wrong for Froch. Of course I'm a fan of Bute and my avatar proves I can make mistakes. ;) A couple of days left to the avatar bet.
     
  10. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    i think you only saw the last minute of the round. He was exhausted but he was still moving and trading punches.
     
  11. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He came out to stop him in the 12th.
    Foolish.
     
  12. Boxing in montr

    Boxing in montr Mandatory challenger Full Member

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    Believe what you want dude. Still, he was trading for the first minute and then, got caught by a shot and went into survival mode. Don't bother to respond if it's to say the same thing again...:-(
     
  13. Boxing in montr

    Boxing in montr Mandatory challenger Full Member

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    What's the deadline for Jermaine ? :D
     
  14. olyalex

    olyalex Manos de piedra Full Member

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    This fight is verry close, but i think that Frochs style is just perfect for Bute to win.
     
  15. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch also has a better inside game than Bute, you should take a look back at the Pascal fight. Hes not a genius inside, but hes definitely better than Bute there. His right hand to the body is lethal and also the left hook. His uppercut on the inside can also be sneaky. If Bute was to fight Froch on the inside, he would be abandoning his advantages and fighting Froch's fight, so i don't think he would want to take the approach anyway. :good

    That's because Berrio is no where near Froch in terms of skill level, on top of the fact that he did not lay a lot of leather of Bute nor put the kind of consistent pressure that Andrade or Froch will put on him.

    And Taylor is not a knockout puncher? You need to resit Taylor pre Hopkins, he had one of the highest knockout percentages in the sport and he also staggered Hopkins in their first fight on top of knocking down Pavlik( who has a granite chin) and Froch. He is the true definition of a boxer/puncher. Hes just not a good finisher.

    He had showed good stamina previously because he didn't have to be pressured the way he did against Andrade and the way he WILL be pressured against Froch. I also disagree about Froch not having his stamina tested. His stamina was tested against Pascal( especially) as well as Taylor. Both of them faded, and HE was the one that came on late to rally in those fights. Since when has Bute (pre Andrade) fought at the kind of pace that Pascal and Froch fought at? He didn't, he was knocking out most of his opponents, and against Bika, he mainly used punch and grab tactics and fought extremely cautious.

    Bute is a smart fighter, although even in some of the earlier rounds against Andrade, he elected to trade and got stunned. Lets remember that Andrade is not even close to being a knockout puncher, and managed to wear Bute out on strength and size alone. Froch brings all of this, on top of being a better boxer than Andrade and a harder puncher. When Froch comes on in the later rounds against Bute the way he did against Pascal and Taylor, how will Bute pull through? He hasn't showed me anything to convince me that he can.


    Froch's pressure game is underrated, and i feel Andrade's pressure in the Bute was overrated. Don't forget that early in that fight, Andrade was not doing much pressuring at all and was easily lossing the rounds. It wasn't until the later rounds( when Bute faded) when Andrade had his best moments. Froch can apply the same amount of pressure he applied on Taylor on Bute, which is about the same amount that Andrade put on him. Pressure can come in different ways, both phyciological and physical.


    LOL and too bad about the bet, i actually picked Froch to win that fight also. :D