Who wins? Joe Calzaghe vs Andre Ward

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Who takes it?

  1. Calzaghe by stoppage

    8 vote(s)
    7.1%
  2. Calzaghe by decision

    72 vote(s)
    63.7%
  3. Ward by stoppage

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Ward by decision

    31 vote(s)
    27.4%
  5. Draw

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%
  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I cant think of Ward being able to do much against prime Calzaghe. Sure Ward could hold a bit, but Calzaghe was always able to beat fighters at their own game
     
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  2. Bogotazo

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    Calzaghe could hardly handle old Hopkins in the clinch. An athlete like Ward is neutralizing Joe's jab on the outside, outmaneuvering him with better footwork, and winning the fight on the inside. He'd do to Joe what he did to every fighter.
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You forget also that that was end of career Calzaghe having his first fight at a new weight.
    Ward could hardly handle Kovalevs slow jab, imagine a fast athlete like Calzaghe. Also at SMW I dont think Ward would be any stronger or better on the inside.
    Calzaghe was good on the inside when he wanted to be and he may not let Ward get on the inside and win on the outside
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    yu still pretednin o werein te rgt to say aussie was completely wrgon...yet in te same paragrah yu admit you were only partly right.

    ha!

    n woner i need to put u back on ignore.
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Who cares ?? Not me Two of the most over rated egotistical wimps in the sport " We only want to fight at home with all the advantages"
     
  6. cuchulain

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    Well, you could argue that Joe would do to him what Joe did to every other opponent. Joe's level of fitness and stamina would be the difference.

    And I don't think any version of Ward so far would have prevailed against 2008 Hopkins.


    They are both top drawer at what they did.
    And they will never face each other, so it will always be speculation.

    You finished Law school yet ?
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Make that your last bottle, herol, and have an early night.

    You're making a complete kunt of yourself, son.
     
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  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Kovalev's power jab is miles ahead of Joe's, not to mention the lead hand not having the same impact in opposite-stance matches, especially with Ward's expert use of the lead hand.

    Calzaghe was never better on the inside than Ward. Never.

    Ward has fought and beat (by one point on my card) a fighter much more dangerous than Calzaghe in Kovalev. Calzaghe's biggest names were past-prime greats. "Workrate" is not really a great argument, Ward is more skilled in every area and would land the better punches.

    He would have beaten Hopkins. Triangle theory is useless anyway though.

    A few years ago, I'm a lawyer now.
     
  9. Bogotazo

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    It's fairly simple: who will have an easier time hitting the other, and which will have a harder time hitting the other? Joe is more hittable and doesn't have fight-ending power to bail him out. He's gonna be slapping air, arms and shoulders whether Ward is inside and outside, landing a sharp punch for every 3 misses by Joe. I'm not saying Joe won't have his moments but he's dealing with someone who is both more athletic (equally at worst) and has a higher ring IQ.
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    As I mentioned to the other fella, yours is a minority opinion there.

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:2098240


    and

    If Ward had actually beat Kovalev (without being the beneficiary of a gift), that would be different.

    Besides, didn't you say
     
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  11. Todd498

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    Lol! Threads and polls on this fight always seem to rile up the usual suspects :D And it never gets any less entertaining to watch.
     
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  12. Kevin Willis

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    Super Joe!

    Super JOE!!

    SUPER JOE CALZAGHE!!!
     
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  14. Bogotazo

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    It doesn't matter to me, I'll defend my scorecard round by one against anyone. Most people just saw Kovalev drop Ward and spent the next few rounds assuming they were going to Kovalev waiting for him to hurt Andre again.

    That's not triangle theory because Calzaghe never fought Kovalev. Triangle theory is comparing performances against common opponents.
     
  15. BCS8

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    :risas3: :thumbsup:
     
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