Who wins? John L Sullivan or Wladimir Klitschko?!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by StuBoxing, Aug 20, 2007.


  1. StuBoxing

    StuBoxing Member Full Member

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    Hey guys,

    I've been thinking this for a while now. Who would win if the first ever world heavyweight champion John L Sullivan faced current world champion Wladimir Klitschko in their primes. With over a century gap between these two heavyweight fighter, lets compare their styles, attitudes and hearts and come up with how this matchup would look if it were to actually happen! What do you think?

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  2. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    that guy on the right is vitali actually.
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    why you talking about wlad, then post a vitali picture?
     
  4. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    besides that 30 of that guy sullivan fought had their first fight. only a hopeless nostalgic thinks sullivan takes it.
     
  5. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    i'm pretty sure his were mainly hobos, farmers and truck drivers, just that there were no trucks at that time.
     
  6. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    ...sure his OPPONENTS were....
    sorry bout that.
     
  7. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Funny.

    First punch landed Sullivan would go down, guys back then didn't have access to the training aids guys have now.
     
  8. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would be unfair, Wlad could kill the poor old timer with no gloves.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I'd hazard a guess that Wlad would ko hmi.
     
  10. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    He will hurt his hands by punching his opponent nose in with a jab - so it sticks from the other side.

    Modern technique is suited for bare knuckles just fine with some training. MMA folks are doing quite OK.

    There is no magic about "old-school masters". Modern athletes in all sports are just as dedicated and much better schooled. Boxing and other martial arts are no exception. MOdern guys run faster and box better. Do not confuse the instanity of modern boxing promoters and sanctioning with the quality of fighters.
     
  11. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  12. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    C'mon that's not right. They were mostly cab drivers from Mexico. Wait a minute....that's someone else.
     
  13. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    It is mildly amusing how some people assume that anybody who disagrees with them is ignorant.

    Did you stop arguing beacuse you do not have an argument?

    I do have an argument. In every single discipline - every one - where an objective comparison is available, modern athletes are improving year after year. It does not matter whether this is endurance, speed, strenth or mental toughness. That holds true even in disciplines where dedication and mental aspects are as important or more important as in boxing (such as many of thsoe "extreme" sports, like rock climbing.

    There is absolutely no reason to believe that boxing is anyhow different.

    WHy would you think that boxing is different?
     
  14. teetop

    teetop Active Member Full Member

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    John L. sullivan is a legend and one of the pioneers of the sport, but he
    was too undersized to even be slightly competitive with wlad.
    Klitschko by death.
     
  15. tryggve

    tryggve New Member Full Member

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    Well pea you are making yourself look stupid boxing peaked in the 40s yikes training and the ability to train professionaly without having to have a real job on the side wasnt realy there until the 60s 70s that when the sport realy started to evolve just as all other sports when money got good enough not having to rely on a "real job".