Who wins majority of the time, outside fighter vs inside fighter?

I was going by what they mean in the boxing world when they say "boxing" and "boxer". Boxing to punch and not get punched, typically working at a distance. Boxers the ones that generally stay on the outside and use rangier punches like the jab.

Good outside fighters as a whole tend to get hit less than good infighters. The range infighters play at makes it so that they'll usually take more punishment and end up having shorter careers.

Good boxers are often times athletic people. This athleticism gives them an edge as fighters. We can't fault Leonard, Ali, and Chavez for having greater athleticism.

Many infighters become infighters because they need to get close to land bodyshots and neutralize the handspeed of their opposition. Their short builds aren't referred to as "good builds for boxing".

This is a sport, so I rather be one of the athletic ones, more commonly the boxers.

 

Duran went up in weight and beat a younger Leonard at the tail end of his prime. It's arguable the other fights are far less significant considering the circumstances. So not the best example, at least one that doesn't best prove the outside fighter point.

Yea. This one is also tough. In-fighters have less longevity, and while Ali was coming off an exile when Frazier won in his peak of powers, he probably couldn't be as much afterwards. But not a bad one, Ali was definitely the superior fighter.

Castillo is also the inferior fighter. It's hard take these examples and try breaking down the out vs in fighter and I know you're taking his examples here. Castillo still managed in most boxing fans eye to go 1-1 while being the inferior fighter. This says something about Castillo in terms of a stylistic matchup against Mayweather... at least the Mayweather of that time.

This one is utterly bizarre. Says for more about technique and textbook boxing not being the end all be all because boxing is far more an art-form that deals with spontaneity, creativity, and intuitiveness.

LaMotta was the bigger fighter too. Robinson was also the GOAT, and a capable fighter on the inside. Robinson also was a far better puncher than LaMotta, though.

Dempsey was past his prime while Tunney was arguably in his best fighting days. It's arguable that Dempsey may have never been able to beat Tunney prime or not, but that's debatable without actually knowing so.

Greb was smaller than Tunney but beat him in his prime. He also fought Greb to a contested SD loss and a draw (As well as another loss). Greb was the superior fighter to be objective. As was Robinson to LaMotta who was also bigger, however, Tunney was superior than LaMotta respectively as well.

 

I rather be Ward A. Swarmers trouble boxers all else being equal. Ward appeared to get tired towards the end with Froch who didn't have much effective aggression. Infighter Ward would be able to get bodyshots in on Ward B.

 

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Peak for peak? It's pretty close usually.

Whole career wise? The boxer will usually fare better because they will take less punches overall (unless youre like Toney who does nothing but spar)

 

The boxers were better athletes in many of those examples. Swarmers are supposed to trouble boxers, but boxer is often the choice of style for athletic guys to use. This athleticism commonly found among boxers ends up helping them overcome the swarmers along with being the better fighter.

 

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I think it takes more to get inside than to keep someone away from you if "all things are equal". So I would say from outside.

 

So you're saying that the outside fighter tends to be the better fighter because he's the better athlete. Not necessarily that an outside fighter of equal quality to an in-fighter is necessarily or generally better? Otherwise, what was the point of going through those examples individually?

What do you say about Greb, Armstrong, and Langford seemingly being the majority rank in the 1-4 spots?

 

Armstrong was athletic. His larger heart aided him in having amazing stamina and workrate. I'm not an old man, so I haven't ever seen Greb fight, but they say he was a good physical specimen too.

Greb and Armstrong show that swarmers can make it far and rival the GOAT if they have great athleticism to go with all of those skills.

 

Generally the outside fighter, if both are of a comparable skill level.

 

to be honest I don't really have a favorite. I enjoy watching both types of fighters whether it's a donaire or martinez fighting on the outside or a Ward/Rios fighting on the inside. To say one is better than the other is just plain ridiculous and shows a total lack of knowledge of the sport. To say who wins the majority of the time, well that's really hard to say as boxing is a global sport with matches taking place almost everday.