Who Wins? Mosley or Williams?

And Williams is? Even the current Mosley is a level above Williams. I consider Williams B and Mosley B+. The main worry here is Mosley aging and becoming even more past-prime after that excellent performance against Cotto. A win for him is not guaranteed here, but he should be heavily favored.

Mosley's overall talent, iron chin, and still damn good stamina/reflexes/speed/timing should be enough to beat Williams.

 

A prime Moseley couldn't beat PW! This is a easy fight fight for PW!

 

Yeah, because PW is an elite counterpuncher with great defense who uses his size/reach extremely effectively.

 

And that's exactly what would happen if you put an aging Mosley in there with a hungry monster like Williams he will beat Mosley up and make him look old. Mosley can't keep up with a guy like Willams for 12 rounds especially given the fact he has problems with tall fighters like Forest on Winky and since Williams is improving.

 

Paul Williams has a style Shane Mosley has difficult with - at least, Shane Mosley often has problems with taller boxers (check), and he does have problems with southpaws (check).

Still, Williams is somewhat inconsistant, and, until last Saturday, has problems with sitting down on his punches.

Furthermore, looking at experience and quality of opposition, Mosley's record blows Williams out of the water (of course, this is because Mosley is all of 36 years old, while Williams is quite young).

I think Mosley would be able to throw to the body often, move well, and avoid Williams punches, and win a unanimous decision. But on one condition - Mosley MUST throw in combination. He didn't do it against Winky Wright the first time, and paid dearly. In the Wright rematch, he did, and made out with a Majority Decision loss.

I mention the Wright fight because I think the style match-up is very similiar, considering Wright was a tall, southpaw Jr. Middleweight.

So I pick a Mosley UD12 Williams.

 

True - Mosley does have problems with taller fighters, and southpaws. But look at Forrest and Winky - both tall, one of which was a southpaw, but there is a marked difference between them and Williams: Forrest and Winky had SUPERB JABBING SKILLS when they both won their two points wins over Mosley.

Williams does not have the jab to dictate the pace or distance of the fight. His workrate is astonishing, but so is Mosleys.

Mosley fought at a FURIOUS pace against young, hungry MIGUEL COTTO for all of twelve rounds, and actually came on in the later rounds. And Cotto has a pretty damn good jab. Mosley's error, for the most part in that fight, was throwing one power shot at a time (his right hand still has some pop in it, but he MUST throw in combination if he looks to be sucessful).

 

Mosley fought a decent fight but anyone can tell by that fight Mosley was a shade of his former self. He didn't have the same handspeed and his combo punching just wasn't there. He was beaten to the punch far too many times in that fight by Cotto for my liking. Williams is a puzzle that anyone at 147 will have problems solving I just don't think an aging Mosley is up to the task.

 

He handled going 12 with Cotto (a hungry, young ELITE) well and gave him a tough fight. And since when does Williams use his height/reach effectively? You recognize how sloppy and average Margarito is.. Williams barely got by him and he's B- level, B at best. You can't compare Winky/Forrest with Williams in any way, why do people keep doing this? Williams is a sloppy offensive, 1 dimensional fighter who relies on overwhelming his opponents with a high workrate and good handspeed. Cotto was able to land on Mosley a lot because his accuracy/timing is great.. Williams' isn't. Mosley will be landing at a significantly higher % because of his superior accuracy/timing, still very good handspeed, and Williams' leaky defense. Mosley's landed punches will also be cleaner and harder, so even though Williams will throw more, it won't matter in the end. He won't be breaking Mosley down with his average punching power.

 

I would go with Williams by decision.

 

I'm finding it difficult to pin down what your basing this upon.

First, you're assuming Paul Williams will be accurate. But his record would contradict that notion. He was not accurate against the slick counter-puncher Carlos Quintana the first time around, and never came close to stopping the hittable Antonio Margarito.

Shane Mosley would be by far the biggest test Paul Williams would have to date. The same cannot be said conversely. Mosley has dealt with fighters similiar to Williams (check out the Winky Wright rematch from 2004).

Furthermore, he's NEVER been as hittable as Arturo Gatti.

But Paul Williams has, being hit cleanly by the likes of Sharmba Mitchell and Quintana himself.

Mosley W12 Williams

 

:rofl If that was true and Mosley lasted 12 rounds with Cotto, he would probably be dead now.

 

In my own opinion, Williams has become vastly overrated after knocking Quintana out in their rematch.. I believe Quintana got hurt and wasn't able to recover with Williams pressuring and wasn't able to keep distance because of William's long reach.. Beating Quintana doesn't exactly make you the top fighter in the division neither nor does it mean he could defeat Cotto just because he knocked him out quicker.. I also believe Margarito can beat Williams in a rematch.. Don't get me wrong, Williams is a good fighter, but people are hyping him back up sky ****in' high.. I'd choose Mosley over Williams by decision if they were to fight.. I like Williams and all, and even picked him to beat Quintana in the rematch nor would he be a pushover against the likes of Mosley, Cotto, or Margo, but I just think people are over hyping him after his win over Quintana.. That's just me..

 

Mosley is an old man in boxing terms. I see yet another thread where he is being portrayed as if this is the 90s.

And so what if he kept it close with Cotto. He picked Cotto because he saw a welterweight he could beat. And that is that! Mosley wants no part of the bigger welters who would beat him and he knows it. In Cotto, Mosley saw a smaller weltweight who had been hurt before, who had a shorter wingspan and a stationary style. He saw disadvantages both physical and stylistic in Cotto that he felt he could exploit. And for the most part he did.

There is a reason why Mosley didn't want Margarito. Too big, too durable and too determined to do his business. And Williams is not far off from that same assessment. Williams would fight Mosley from a tall stance. He'd put him on the end of that jab and he'd drop left hands all night that would have Mosley backing up completely befuddled. Mosley carried no power to 154 and it'd be equally evident on the two biggest welters out there who both walk around at 160 or close to it.

 

Mosley is no longer the fighter that he was . . . he showed slowing down against Cotto and a little problem with stamina.

. . . against Wiliams he has to exert a lot more effort to neutralize William's physical advantage so in as much as I'm a Mosley fan . . .
Williams by decission . . .

but! . . . I'm not counting out Mosley winning by K.O.

 

This Mosley doesnt beat any top 5 welterweight with the exception of Margo. Few years ago Shane beats them all. And Prime for Prime I think that he would have beat Floyd as well.

If Williams uses his jab the way he did the other night Shane wouldnt stand a chance.