Who wins my fantasy heavyweight super series?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dodgy Syrup, Jul 2, 2021.


Who wins through to be crowned champion?

  1. Ali

    34 vote(s)
    23.6%

  2. Foreman

    7 vote(s)
    4.9%

  3. Frazier

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%

  4. Tyson

    9 vote(s)
    6.3%

  5. Lewis

    59 vote(s)
    41.0%

  6. Holyfield

    6 vote(s)
    4.2%

  7. Klitchko

    10 vote(s)
    6.9%

  8. Fury

    18 vote(s)
    12.5%
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  1. Dodgy Syrup

    Dodgy Syrup Active Member banned Full Member

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    ...and he takes it personally?
     
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  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not for me.
    Lewis also didn't had fought vs prime Mike and please get this: Lewis does not likes me cos his fans here are masturbating about Vitali face and so on.
    I don't hate Lewis but his fans here does not likes me.
    I never will care about how cool Lewis was, for me he was less cool fighter than Spong for example. Get this, you can't force me value Lewis higher than Spong for example.

    Actually Lewis fans are maybe even worse than Canelo fans posting here.
    Get this and while you are posting about Vitali face, get that pro boxing is sissy sport to entertain ppl like you not h2h.
    Sorry, you can't enforce me to worship Lewis and his fans.
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL Lewis would work Fury down and KO him late. i actually think Wladimir would give Lewis a harder fight due to his power. Fury has nothing to keep Lewis off of him.

    Fury can outbox him but for how long ? Lewis will close that gap like he did to Akinwande, Biggs and Vitali
     
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  4. Dodgy Syrup

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    Fury hasn't taken on anyone of the calibre Lewis took on, he's never been put under pressure by those same kinds of fighters.

    Fury is often elevated into these conversations because of his size, as if he is an automatic winner because of it.

    I had a back and forth with Finkel, who refused to accept Mike Tyson had any chance against Fury because Fury was simply too tall.

    He completely disregarded prime Iron Mike's ability, his movement, his tenacity, his aggression, and refused to see the parallels between Haye v Valuev as proof much smaller men can compete against giants.

    Now, granted, Valuev is no Fury.


    By contrast, he was very static - but still, he had all the physical advantages on paper the way Fury would against Tyson...and it didn't matter.

    There was simply no way, in his mind, that a guy that much smaller could ever win...and I don't see it.
     
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  5. scandcb

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    I like Vitali.

    Canelo fans are indeed annoying.

    The rest of your post makes little sense.
     
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  6. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At least get it right mate. You said too tall

    I said too big: 10" taller + 40lbs heavier.
    ;)

    And you are comparing Valuev (a guy with acromegaly in his retirement fight no less) with Fury.
     
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  7. Dodgy Syrup

    Dodgy Syrup Active Member banned Full Member

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    Blah...blah..blah.

    Funny, because I remember it being almost exclusively about the height difference...but whatever.

    The point remains, you think prime Tyson has absolutely no chance against Fury.

    I think that's not the case.

    I think prime Mike Tyson - fearless, motivated, aggressive, Mike, with his movement and power - could get to Fury.

    He might decide to chop him to pieces at the body.

    P.S you know the point about Valuev is that he was a huge, much bigger, heavier man and yet Haye was able to nullify those advantages.

    I even stated the Valuev is no Fury and was very static.

    You decided to disregard that as you were desperate to score some meaningless points.

    I guess, if we ever see Fury face a guy who is of a similar height and weight as prime Mike Tyson we'll get some idea of how right or wrong one of us is...at least in so far as the measurements are the relevant factor and not their actual boxing ability, which seems irrelevant in your assessment.
     
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  8. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, you remember wrongly and you obviously don't recall me repeatedly trying to correct you on what I was actually arguing. The axes of height and weight on the graph should have been the give away in my very first post.

    And who's trying to score meaningless points, anyway? Not me...
    You mentioned me by name and misrepresented my argument. I merely corrected you.

    You don't seem to want to let it lie...
     
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  9. Dodgy Syrup

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    No, I represented you exactly as you deserve based on what you've said.

    Your argument is "Fury is too big for Tyson and would destroy him".

    Mine is "I think you underestimate Tyson".

    This seems to bother you as you simply won't let it go.

    You are becoming a little pest.
     
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  10. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol why are you so triggered by this. So we disagree, so what. It's no big deal.

    If you really want to keep discussing this in more and more detail, which you clearly seem to want to, why not start a separate thread...

    I should probably add, it's gone midnight here, but I'll be sure to look out for it tomorrow, if you like.
     
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  11. Dodgy Syrup

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    You are just repeating what I'm saying and not convincingly.

    Night night.
     
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  12. Noel857

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    None of his posts make sense
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You really dont think Mike Tyson stands a chace against Fury ? Fury is huge but Tyson would be punching that mid section all night. Mike Tyson had insane head movement as well and would be slipping the jab, getting in front of Fury's face every second. it's not just a case of Fury being too big and Tyson not reaching his head enough although he could lets be honest. Have you ever thought that Mike Tyson could simply outwork Fury like he did Tyrell Biggs (before he KO'd him) ? Mike Tyson is not the slow plodder with slow hands that Dereck Chisora was.

    That being said the size difference will give Tyson serious issues
     
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  14. SmackDaBum

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    Fury took on Wlad...

    Vitali was Lewis best opponent...
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes Fury beat a 39 year old gunshy Wlad while Lewis was overweight, 37, and took Vitali on 2 weeks notice and won.

    Context
     
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