Who wins my fantasy heavyweight super series?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dodgy Syrup, Jul 2, 2021.



Who wins through to be crowned champion?

  1. Ali

    34 vote(s)
    23.6%
  2. Foreman

    7 vote(s)
    4.9%
  3. Frazier

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  4. Tyson

    9 vote(s)
    6.3%
  5. Lewis

    59 vote(s)
    41.0%
  6. Holyfield

    6 vote(s)
    4.2%
  7. Klitchko

    10 vote(s)
    6.9%
  8. Fury

    18 vote(s)
    12.5%
  1. Dodgy Syrup

    Dodgy Syrup Active Member banned Full Member

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    Was Marciano that light?

    I thought he was heavier than that, must admit.
     
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  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, as far it is available in net: he was 184-188lber, Patterson approx 190 lber.
     
  3. Dodgy Syrup

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    Fury is definitely a match for anyone of these on his day, though the poll suggests some think he's just not quite good enough to beat the absolute elite legend of Ali or the underrated (by some) Lewis.
     
  4. Dodgy Syrup

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    Man, he really was small wasn't he, by todays standards?

    It really does put the size of that era of heavyweights into perspective.
     
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    Dodgy Syrup Active Member banned Full Member

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    How long do you think Ali would last against Lewis?
     
  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Not that long I actually wanted to make that tread
     
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    Go for it, mate.

    I think you'll get a good discussion going as there are some who will claim Ali is light years ahead and runs rings around him, while others will say Lewis is too big and will overwhelm Ali.
     
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    Marciano would be a Light heavyweight. Holyfield was a ped cheater. Not natutal at all. Also got outboxed by Lewis. Valuev was a joke of a boxer still managed to be a world boxer due to his size. David Haye was an excellent boxer - P4P with Both speed and power, but go watch how easily Wlad outboxed him. Wlad-Haye is the same size difference as Wlad-Ali by the way regarding height, reach, and Weight. Haye has some more muscle and a bit lower BF% but you get the General idea. I also feel David Haye would beat Ali in a fantasy matchup.
     
  9. Finkel

    Finkel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hmm... What could it be...
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  10. Dodgy Syrup

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    You think Haye beats Ali?

    Sshhhh...that's sacrilege.
     
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  11. Dodgy Syrup

    Dodgy Syrup Active Member banned Full Member

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    lol...that's not really from Mike Tyson, is it?
     
  12. Finkel

    Finkel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, the segmentation is purely my opinion based on how I viewed his general performances, but the data points of size, weight and ring ratings are fairly accurate.

    Though I realise there is still debate over the true height of Tyson Fury.

    Though I should have mentioned yellow = hypothetical match ups

    p.s. I made it months ago. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Dodgy Syrup

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    When I've seen him face off against Wilder he doesn't look much taller to me, so do we know what Wilder's official height is?

    At best he looks an inch or two shorter than Fury, and I think I read Wilder was around 6ft 5in or 6ft6in - which presumably puts Fury at about 6ft 8in.

    I saw an article after Googling it that was from Klitchko and he also refutes the claim Fury is 6ft9in.
     
  14. Finkel

    Finkel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sure. Drop his height a few centimeters. Midget Magic Mike still ain't beating him.

    The height difference alone would still be bigger than Haye v Valuev.
    Haye v Valuev = 20~22cm
    Tyson v Fury = 24~28cm

    Too tall, too heavy, just too darn big and agile with it.
     
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  15. Dodgy Syrup

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    Are you saying you don't think prime Mike Tyson could find a way to close the distance and go to the body, or that he couldn't duck and weave into the pocket and crack Fury square on the jaw?

    Tyson was always the smaller guy in fights, albeit not against anyone quite as big as Fury.

    Still, Berbick wasn't short, and what about Lewis, or Bruno, and Golotha was another - so Mike did have experience against much taller men.

    Now, agreed, they weren't as tall as Fury.

    They were in the 6ft4 - 6ft5in range though, which was still a big disadvantage (if that's what you are saying it is) to Tyson.

    What about the reverse, where Tyson is far too quick and elusive for Fury - and Fury ends up punching down into thin air half the night?
     
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