Who wins my fantasy middleweight super series?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dodgy Syrup, Jun 24, 2021.


Who wins through to be crowned champion?

  1. Hagler

    54 vote(s)
    45.0%
  2. Canelo

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  3. GGG

    19 vote(s)
    15.8%
  4. Benn

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Eubank jnr

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  6. Toney

    4 vote(s)
    3.3%
  7. LaMotta

    2 vote(s)
    1.7%
  8. Jones jnr

    39 vote(s)
    32.5%
  1. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    anyone who picks benn needs their head checked
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think that a rematch could be on the cards at some point.

    I know that Eubank’s been promised a title shot. But unless he’s improved a lot under Roy’s guidance, I can’t see him having much luck. I don’t think he’s that good.
     
  3. Dodgy Syrup

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    All fighters would have to be clean, with random testing right up to the day of the fight.

    There would be no rehydration funny business either.

    The fighter has to make 160 at a weigh in 30 minutes before the ring walks.

    Harsh, aren't I?
    :)
     
  4. Dodgy Syrup

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    No, I agree.

    I think Eubank is only going to stagnate at this point.

    His natural instinct is to stand and trade, and I don't think you can take that from him this late in his career, and maybe you shouldn't want to.

    It's what he does best, albeit not at a level good enough to ever beat the elite guys.

    Eubank is another one who made bold claims about beating GGG and Canelo, but will end up retiring without facing either of them.

    Like Wilder and the fact I don't see him ever facing Whyte or Joshua.
     
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  5. Loudon

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    That would probably exclude Roy and Toney from the tournament.
     
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  6. Loudon

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    I doubt very much he’ll face either one of those guys at this stage of his career. I do feel for a him a bit though, because the GGG fight was there, until Snr scuppered it with all of his crazy demands. He cost Jr the fight. People can call Jr deluded etc, but he’s got a lot of heart. I think he would fight both of those guys if he was given the opportunity.
     
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  7. Dodgy Syrup

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    I agree, he definitely has the guts.

    But, like you say, he allowed his father to take control and it cost him.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Whelp I guess Golovkin is out then.

    The drug testing means Clenelo is out too.

    I'll take Hagler under those rules.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    I think he'd fight them too. But what I can't work out is whether Eubank Snr suddenly got cold feet and realised that his kid was gonna get malleted and blew up the negotiations on purpose, or whether he truly believed in all the nutty demands he was making. :hollering:
     
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  10. FrankinDallas

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    I voted for Hagler because Greb wasn't a choice.
     
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  11. Loudon

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    IMHO, he didn’t blow him the fight on purpose. I truly believe that his ego just tried to take over everything. He even apologised for his actions about 6 months later.
     
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  12. FastSmith7

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    Man, Canelo has the best head movement in the world and was being peppered by GGG jabs, slipping GGGs jabs is easier said than done
     
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  13. FastSmith7

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    Yeah we know RJJ would definitely get obliterated by a few of them with proper drug testing
     
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  14. iii

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    Prime Toney...
     
  15. Dodgy Syrup

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    I suppose we can just assume they are all clean and 160 during the ring walk.

    The fact we have to discount so many fighters, and a few from the list here, is a quite sad when you think about it.

    Still, as it's all in fun and is a fantasy series we will give them all the benefit of the doubt and assume they are all clean and on the 160 limit.

    Of course, the frustrating thing is how exactly do we judge Canelo relative to these other greats?

    How can we know what a "clean" Alvarez, who hasn't spent the 24-36 hours between the official weigh in and the start of the fight bulking up, is actually capable of against men like Hagler, or Benn, or Toney?

    Exactly how diminished as a fighter is he if he can't use the extra boost that comes with PEDs (and we are assuming he is roided to the gills) and can't outweigh a genuine 160 pounder by 15+ because of the ridiculous amount of time between weigh in and fight time?

    It all gets very messy, doesn't it?

    I wonder, how many of the greats of the last 30-40 years HAVEN'T been using performance enhancing drugs?
     
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