Who wins Sugar Shane Mosley Vs Paul the Punisher Williams?

DLH was weight drained when he fought Manny, that is fact not speculation.I would also say PBF was never given fits by Oscar in there fight, Oscar was never effective and PBF's counter punching Oscar when he tried to jab is the reason Oscar "suddenly stopped throwing it".

As for Hatton, he had already been KO'd by Floyd before he fought Manny, this is a fact. Another fact is that he was actually KO'd by Juan Lazcano, but because the fight was in England the ref protected Hatton. So the fact that Manny KO'd Hatton was irrelevant to me and to all true fans, Hatton was broken and became a even worse fighter after Floyd knocked his ass out.

i"m only saying this to but Pac's achievements in the proper perspective. I hate the over rating of him that is being perpetuated by the media and his fans.

 

Its speculation unless you are Oscar.....PAC could have been the reason DLH didn't perform up to expectation. All you can go by is what happened in the fight and DLH got the business. Floyd wasn't all that effective himself finding Oscar either. It was a better "DEFENSIVE" fight than offensive. Floyd won.....but not by much. It was a close fight any way you decide to spin it.

True....hatton was KO'd by Floyd before PAC did it in less time in a more dominating performance. That doesn't mean Hatton was shot...he lost to the then P4P king after making it 10 rounds or so. It's not a fact that Juan KO'd Hatton....that is just wishful thinking on your part. The fact of the matter is he beat Juan in a close fight...that's fact. You just stated a false perception of what you felt.

You can dismiss Manny's KO of Hatton all you want and you can claim that you and the group you run with are "true fans" and all agree with your opinion....but that is not reality. Maybe in your own little world it is, but what you feel is reality and who you feel are "real fans" is not what's real bro. Its nice you are passionate but its obvious you are reaching.

Perspective lies somewhere in the middle of the PAC fanatics and the PAC haters. He's not the 2nd coming of Robinson, but he's definitley the best fighter of this era giving what he's accomplished in the ring and a legit ATG. Real talk!

 

Stupid post. When has Mosley ever even appeared like he will quit...never. If you actually beleive this you know nothing about Shane Mosley and little about boxing.


Williams wide UD.

 

mosley will never quit and pw would not be able to knock him out. with nazeem in his corner i think mosley has a good chance to beat anyone, granted he fights/executes in a smart fashion. pauls defense isnt what it needs to be and once a fighter figures out how to deal with those freakish tentacles of his and land big shots he will lose. im gonna have to go with the slim chance that mosley battles his way to a split or unanimous decision.

 

The fact that ODLH had to get IVs for sustenance shows he was undernourished. This is a fact and it undeniable. Period. ODLH was weight drained.

As for Lazcano, the fact that Hatton could not take him out shows how poor a fighter Hatton was, compound that with the fact that every objective boxing fan knows the refs saved his ass when Lazcano knocked his ass out in the 11th. If Hatton got KO'd by a undersized, shot, and rusty Lazcano what could he do against any elite fighter,

Manny is definitely not the best fight of this era, how is he better than the man who everyone knows beats him twice? JMM and Floyd both stand over Pac.

 

Many fighters who have to loose weight utilize IV's for rehydrating before the actual fight. What I'm saying is DLH could have been weight drained and on the flip side he could have been fine. Most fighters who DON'T balloon up after weigh in are considered to have lost the weight in an intelligent manner and hints to say that they are in prime shape...which was reproted from DLH and his camp throughout the build up to the fight. His performance didn't suggest this but whos to say PAC wasn't responsible for the way DLH looked...afterall he was the one who gave his the whoopin. Its still speculation!

Ok...So if Hatton couldn't take out Juan he's a poor fighter....YET, it took the P4P king and self proclaime "Greates boxer ever" 10 rounds to dispose of a "poor" fighter like Hatton?:huh Not to mention from Floyd's mouth....Hatton gave him his "hardest fight" Ok....:-(

No one has beaten Manny Twice...JMM lost to PAC twice. The draw was a gift so reality is PAC is 2-0. But since I'm being nice I'll say its 1-0-1 in favor of Manny.

Floyd may be the best boxer of this era...but in terms of accomplishments he's behind PAC. PAC has the track record, resume and performances to PROVE he's the best "Fighter" in this era. Floyd's skills are unmatched with regards to his "boxing"...hence...the best "boxer" of this era. But his resume lacks the substance that is in abundance on PAC's resume.

 

Williams by decision. Just too much for Mosley at this stage, FAR too much.

 

Williams UD

 

sugar shane.

he's got the experience, smarts and athleticism to win. all he needs is a solid gameplan to execute. and besides, paul aint seen nothing like shane yet.

 

Williams would win because he has a great chin and throws so many punchs. Mosley would be slaughtered most likely if they fought.

 

80% for Williams. Where is the King of Denial?