Who wins the Rematch: Ward-Kovalev 2

Nah that's just your pre-built excuse so you don't have to give certain men credit.

 

Kovalev had more success when he set up his right hand and combos behind the jab and pressed Ward. If Kovalev wants to win he needs to work behind the jab and throw combinations up and down. Ward needs to smother Kovalev's work and throw hooks when exiting their clinches. He set up the jab very well the first time but his best work came when he went to the body.

 

meh...another white girl struggling to sing like a black woman.

 

I GIVE WHEN CREDIT IS DUE

 

I'm not seeing it. If I had posted this maybe you would have a point. But I wouldn't call this struggling either.

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In a boxing match Kovalev wins,in a stink fest,wrestling match Ward wins.
Did Ward throw any power punches I remember a few that landed,other than that it was jab n wrestle wasn't it or am I being unfair?

 

Ward tko body shots.

He set the blueprint in the first fight.

 

It is just a technique to be learned. The problem is that Ward didn'T really do much a jab to the body then he was shoved down to the ground or it went into the clinch, during the clinch, kovalev landed the most punches . Compubox scores proves that. I scored the darn thing 115 to 112 after the first five rounds they were very close I judged those by ring control. K valev fought with his back to the center of the round majority of the time

 

Krusher won the first fight and will win the second one if Ward doesn't duck the rematch, which I wouldn't be surprised. The worst in all this is that Ward acts like he completely dismantled and dominated Kovalev. I had it 115-112 Kovalev and at worst, Kovalev 114-113.

 

I'm sorry, but if you think Kovalev landed the greater number of scoring punches when they were in the clinch or stepping out of them, you were clearly watching another fight or just seeing what you wanted to see. By all means make a case for Kovalev winning - it was a close fight and scoring is ultimately subjective - but he did not win the exchanges when Ward closed the range, in fact he barely worked at all in these circumstance often just tying up Ward with both arms until the ref called break. By no stretch of the imagination can anyone make a sensible case for Kovalev winning the battle of the inside work.

Also, I don't tend to take too seriously the Compubox stats. Yeah, they are interesting and indicative to some degree, but if their weight of evidence was robust, fights would be scored using them and anyway when the number of punches thrown and landed are close - as they were in this case - effective aggression, ring generalship and defense play an enhanced part in how the judges score rounds - merely counting punches isn't enough. Compubox stats certainly don't identify the circumstances in which punches were landed, Just the total thrown, those which landed and the ones which were jabs and 'power shots', although how they calibrate power is an unanswered question. I take Compubox stats with a pinch of salt, to be honest. We don't even know the name of the people who compile them or their objectivity.

And like I said before, if working in the clinch is just a 'technique to be learned' how come an elite fighter (with a ring IQ equal to that of Ward's according to you) has yet to master something inferred by you to be simple?

 

Yeah I agree one can make a case for Kovalev but not on the inside,Ward was getting off shots when being broken up even,it was what turned the fight for sure as much as I don't like it he'd of been a fool to box Kovalevs fight at that range,it also seemed to disrupt Kovalev at range as well

 

Watch the fight again ward didn't do much at all in the inside they would clinch and hit each other in the back of the head or in the body and that was it Ward refused to try to box I you do not see it that way you are a troubled person

 

Kovalev used a proper technique there are just better ones . I really think that you need to watch this fight again honestly ward did absolutely nothing in the inside . you said that the jab to the body was the deciding factor rewatch it Ward got worse than I thought he did

 

He did nothing on the inside... mkay...

Listen, there's little point us dragging this out. You say Ward did nothing on the inside. I say he did, and even most Kovalev fans agree this is where Ward was most effective, even though they see Ward losing the fight and object to what they saw as excessive clinching. Let's agree to disagree and move on...

 

Come on just cause I disagree it hardly makes me a troubled person lol,to be honest neither did anything up close,it's my major thing about Ward how he keeps on going on about his "inside game" when all he does is jab n charge headlong into his opponent where by he eats time into the rounds cause he knows his chin is like China,thing is it does just that as the fight seemed to rush by,neither of em did anything on the inside except hold and rabbit punch,now if that's what you're referring to then you may be right but it's not something I look out for to be honest?