Who wins the rematch...Whyte of Povetkin?

Whyte chin is gone I reckon. That brain was switched off like a lightbulb by that uppercut.

Looking back at the first 3 rds, they were all nip and tuck.

If the rematch happens in Russia, Pov takes it. In UK its another 50-50 fight.

 

Povetkin signed the rematch clause. Whyte is in his rights to enforce it.
Whyte vs Povetkin was not an eliminator. Whyte already had the mandatory shot. Now Povetkin likely took it from him.
If Whyte-Povetkin had been an official eliminator, I would fully agree with you. But it wasn't.

 

What?

 

I forgot about that prediction you made. Great call, even if you didn't get the shot correct.

I've got Whyte in the rematch, provided he fights smart, which is no given. I'm also factoring in Povetkin's further physical decline between then and now. Whyte basically needs to do a Joshua and box behind the jab, take all the rounds and win a boring decision. I think he can do that, but he needs to tighten up his defence, work on his jab, and curb his tendencies to go for the KO when he has Povetkin hurt. Just small changes but very necessary ones if he hopes to win.

 

Good post.

Whyte has a critical adjustment to make which is to avoid being set up for Povetkin's uppercut, which is excellent. The rest of his gameplan was working pretty well.

Povetkin can do a couple of things. His big overhand right was missing by fractions, and its clear that Whyte trained to slip that punch specifically, and slip it he did. Povetkin in his prime would probably have landed it; he's gotten slower. His head movement and slipping also isn't what it used to be. Sasha needs to regain his old defensive nous. That's drilling.

Finally, the thing that was the difference between them: Whyte's jab was useful and landed repeatedly. Povetkin is one of those odd ducks that seems to have fought without a defining jab for much of his career, probably because he fights by throwing punches in bunches up close. I think that he needs to work on his jab to at least contest Whyte's and to help set up that big overhand of his. He's in the same boat as Klitschko was against AJ: he's lost that little bit of speed, just enough to make punches that used to work for him, miss by fractions. He needs to be more clever in how he sets up his offense.

 

Simple, povetkin agreed to and signed a contract with a rematch clause

 

Hard to see any other result than a repeat. Whyte dropped him twice and he comes back and levels him from nothing.

 

Seems like a lot of people are ignoring the fact that Povetkin was doing what many expected Whyte to do: go to the body.
Whyte can try and dance, but he lacks the stamina and Povetkin will cut him down like a tree.

 

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that about Povetkin. He does have a kind of jab, one of those half jabs that he uses at the same time as he steps in to land his short power shots, but outside of that he hardly has any jab to speak of. It's all close and midrange shots with him and the odd counter right over the jab. I'm not sure if at this stage he can or should develop his jab to match Whyte's. It's not a strength of his, and might throw off other aspects of his game that would be engrained by now. Tightening up his head movement and parrying, and practising how he closes distance would be his best bets now. Those are things he does well already, but which were off in the Whyte fight and which led to Whyte having success. He shouldn't make any major changes at this stage.

Whyte also needs to tighten up his defence, which in his case would just be ensuring he maintains a watertight guard from which he can throw tight hooks off the counter when Povetkin is trying to trade with him. His jab was working pretty well, but could always use more seasoning. It's not a shot that you ever stop practising or improving really, and there's certainly room to make it even more effective. Most importantly he needs to stop having those lapses where he just seems to throw his arms out for no reason (range finding jab? power shot? who knows?). Keep it simple and mechanical: jab, tight guard, tie up if need by, sneak power shots in when you can, work the body. None of this sloppy half way stuff that serves no purpose, no wild 180 degree hooks that take your head off if they land, but throw you wildly off balance if they miss.

It's a winnable fight for both, moreso for Whyte IMO if he implements the right changes. Povetkin is more or less fighting the best he's able at his age.

 

I think Povetkin has proven to be too shot to be the favorite to pull something like that again, still there's a chance because Povetkin was proven right about Whyte's weakness and Whyte still doesn't seem to believe it's there to be fixed.
That uppercut might land again in the rematch, and I expect that many others will go for it now if Whyte wins.

 

Will be a strange fight, I thought Povetkin looked his age right up to the time he ko'ed Whyte. How soon will the rematch be? the quicker the better for Povetkin, historically putting a guy who's been KTFO back into the ring quickly is a recipe for disaster. See John Tate and Roy Jones.

 

I vote for Povetkin by a KO again, but thats because i`m a huge fan of him, but:

Lets be real here. Eddie will stack everything against him, even more now.
Whyte get away with going low(the ref even warn Povetkin), and plenty of low blows and not a single warning or a word for it. When Povetkin complain referee make a gesture to continue to box. Pure disgrace.
Now the second coming will be even worst.

Again Povetkin should refuse the rematch. The rematch itself is a disgrace. Or at the very least he should get the fight in Russia.

Lets look at the facts; Povetkin is only going to get older and worst. His legs are pretty much gone, now when he is throwing punches or going backwards trying to defend, he is pretty much out of balance, because his legs are way slower. Its the first thing to go. His speed is not what its used to be and he is swining big, because he is lacking feet speed and explosiveness.
Its kinda depend on how you look after you, for how long you can go in terms of age, but age is always a factor.
Povetkin is way more skilled than Whyte, even now, but Whyte is a lot younger.
There is a question also how much Povetkin left in terms of motivation going into camps now., and what desire he will have to do this all over again, and again the same opponent.

Kinda everything favors Whyte, because he is way younger, he will be more motivated and eager to ger revenge.

But there is also one factor, and that is the fear. Whyte will go into the match with the feeling that one punch from Povetkin could pretty much end it.
Whyte is also not a very skilled fighter, he can`t bounce for 12 rounds like Joshua did against Ruiz(and Povetkin won`t show in that shape), and his defence was always been a poor one.
Yeah he will be more caution for the uppercut, but Povetkin got hammers(power is the last to go) in his hand and pretty much can knock him with straight right, hooks from both hands, uppercuts, he also have solid body punches as well, which will throw Whyte defence even more.

So this could pretty much Price - Thompson type of rematch for Whyte.
Also i just don`t see Whyte improve.
The funny thing neither of this top guys improved even quite a bit(maybe only Joshua).

But people on here are too harsh and they think if a fighter lose a fight(no matter how), he got no chance in the rematch, which is completely b.c.

Let me just mention few example from MMA. Miocic lost to Cormier and peoples just doesn`t see what he could to, yet he KO him in the rematch, and in the third fight decision him.

People wasn`t see how can Cain Velasquez can beat Junior Dos Santos, who have insane speed and power(at that time), yet Velasuqez decision him, and then TKO him in the 3rd.
Another example is again Miocic who lost to Dos Santos convincingly, then in the rematch TKO him.

That means one fight lost means pretty much nothing and the fighter that lost can make all the adjustments and can improve or just be a bad night or bad strategy.

My point is everything can happen in the second fight, no matter if the first goes into a total domination for 1 of the fighters, the second could be totally different.
Thats why its best to judge in terms of skills, not resume and who won the previous fight.
And Povetkin going into his 41, another hard camp, not much left in the tank is very likely to lost the rematch.

 

Does anyone know who gets to decide the rematch Venue? It's a stupid question because it's probably hearn, but does either fighter have a say?

I'd say it's only fair to allow Povetkin to choose this time.

 

I don`t think anyone knows. We did even know there was a rematch clause before the fight. This just show you how s**** Hearn and Whyte are.
But before the fight they were speaking high, aka Dilian put everything on the line, his mandatory. The winner faces the WBC champion, and such b.c., aka he takes dangerous fight and put his place on the line, yet this was just another of Eddie antics.

I lost all the respect to him and Whyte there.
As well as saying he would beat Povetkin 9 out of 10 times, when this douch..... is 9 years younger ... If Povetkin was in his prime he would have stretched him.
Granite chin in his prime, way much faster and way much quicker on his feet.
He have insane form after his lost to Klitschko. If he would have taken Whyte in there, he would have killed him.

I hope Whyte lose again, because of his attitude.

 

Povetkin looked like **** in that fight, he has declined a big amount physically and his punch resistance is not what it was. He was quite close to getting stopped, but saved himself with an unbelievable punch. Whyte wins the rematch.