Who Wins This Legendary Four Person Round Robin?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JunlongXiFan, Aug 27, 2022.


Who Wins?

  1. Alexander Povetkin

  2. David Tua

  3. David Haye

  4. Andy Ruiz Jr

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  1. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    The competitors are:

    Alexander Povetkin
    David Tua
    David Haye
    Andy Ruiz Jr

    All of them fight each other once. The one or two (or three) with the best score wins.
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2022
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I voted Haye but come to think of it, I would vote Tua.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A prime motivated Tua KO's them all none of them are slick Southpaw aka Byrd, or a 6'5 ATG Heavyweight aka Lewis, or a 235 pound well conditioned iron chinned fighter, with dynamite in both hands who averages 80 punches a round aka Ibeabuchi.

    If i'm being generous i think the only one who has realistic chance is Povetkin with his skill set, but i still see him getting tagged at some point. Ruiz is tough but not as tough or well conditioned as a prime Tua, no way he lasts in trenches with Tua. And Haye who has a suspect chin is getting KO'ed no way he avoids Tua for 12 rounds.
     
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  4. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tough one, I think Povetkin is most likely to win but I do see him and Haye being very close. Tua would give Haye nightmares as he would have to be switched on all night for 12 rounds as he has no chance of KO'ing him. Ruiz has competive fights with all of them but I see him losing every fight.
     
  5. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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  6. lufcrazy

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  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I'd go with Povetkin, he’s all round more skilled than the rest
     
  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Tua kos Haye and Ruiz, beats Povetkin on decision.
     
  9. ShortRound

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    Tua is being overrated. He took 11 and 12 rounds to stop Maskaev and Izon coming from behind or neck and neck, several journeymen made the distance and gave him problems, Rahman was unfortunate not to get the decision in the rematch after a questionable late stoppage in the first fight.

    Tua was 5'9 with the shortest reach I've ever seen for a contender and slow feet. If Haye could keep out of harm's way for 12 rounds against Wlad, he could definitely do so against Tua. Povetkin was considerably more skilled and had a very good chin. Ruiz would be interesting, he could potentially outwork Tua but he could also get KO'd.

    I think it would come down to Povetkin vs Haye, I'd probably go with Haye for how he dealt with a short durable pressure fighter in Chisora.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Povetkin was the most consistent of the bunch, so hard to pick against him... But when you're dealing with punchers like Tua and Haye anything can happen. Ruiz Jr. almost certainly loses in the first round.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

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    I agree Tua gets a bit overrated overall, and as you pointed out he could be outboxed for large periods in a fight like against Masakev. But Tua is also one of them rare punchers where he can KO you in 1st or the 12th round, so he would be a live threat to alot of Heavyweights and especially in his hypothetical mini tournament.

    Haye fought to survive against Wladimir and made no effort to win, it was one of the biggest non efforts in a Heavyweight championship match. I remember being highly disappointed considering after all the noise Haye made prior to the fight. And whilst Wladimir is better than Tua, Wladimir was content with winning a decision where as Tua would be pressuring Haye looking for the KO. Haye's chin is also somewhat suspect and his stamina could be suspect aswell, i remember Haye in his Cruiserweight days having hell vs Fragomeni's pressure and Mormeck's pressure. I don't see Haye not getting hit in 12 rounds with Tua and when he does it's lights out for him.

    I agree Povetkin has the best chance of beating Tua, his chin is fairly solid and he has the skills to outbox Tua. But i feel like Povetkin would be more aggressive than Rahman, Masakev, allowing Tua to have more opportunities to land on him. And i see Tua getting Povetkin out of there after being behind on points, but again i can see an argument for Povetkin winning a decision against Tua.

    As for Ruiz i don't see him beating Tua in the trenches, as i stated in my early post guys like Byrd, Lewis, outboxed Tua. Even guys like Masakev and Rahman fought on the outside, Ibeabuchi was a bit of a freak of nature 235 pounds of solid muscle, who had dynamite in both hands a rock solid chin who could throw 80 punches a round. He's the only guy who beat Tua in the trenches and even that was a debatable decision. Ruiz wouldn't be boxing on the outside this would be a slugfest, and whilst Ruiz has better hand speed than Tua. I feel Tua is a better inside fighter, harder puncher, better chin, would be enough vs Ruiz.
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua because Povetkin is the only threat and he can't keep it long for 12 rounds
     
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  13. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua takes this most likely stopping all of them but Povetkin could well have his moments .
     
  14. Midwood

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    Poventin takes it .
     
  15. ShortRound

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    "Haye fought to survive against Wladimir and made no effort to win"

    He fought primarily to survive and secondarily to win: Haye had big power so he had a chance of winning even with sporadic raiding efforts, he was looking to lull Wlad into a false sense of security with his safety-first strategy before lunging in and detonating a critical bomb, Wlad had to be 100% switched on for all 12. Wlad was 6'5, a massive puncher, elite skills and much faster feet than Tua, yet Haye was able to survive 12 on his bike and land about 60% as many shots. The speed and range gap would be enormous so I could see Haye pot-shotting his way to a decision (Ike's power was not as good as Haye's imo) against Tua, who did not have cruiser footspeed. Izon, Rahman and Maskaev had suspect chins but all of them made it to 11/12 rounds or the distance and none of them had Haye's athleticism.