Who wins: Tommy Hearns Vs Henry armstrong at 147?

Armstrong was very hard to hit with solid blows. He slipped jabs extremely well and came in and under punches.

Not sure why people are talking about Hearns v Duran, that happened in 1984, at 154 pounds ... in which Duran fought absolutely unlike anything we ever see from Henry Armstrong.

 

Hank can't beat Tommy, far too much height and reach here for the GREAT little Henry!

 

hearns by ko in the 5th and i havent seen armstrong even fight.

 

Duran was a short guy who liked to bull his opponents into the ropes and unload, utilising his shoulders and his head to push them back ,that is Armstrong.

Armstrong never faced a welterweight who had the speed, reach and punishing jab of Hearns , neither did he face anyone at the weight who had comparable power to Hearns. Zivic whom Hearns would have ripped to bits ,beat Armstrong twice at 147 badly damaging his face in both fights one of which was a stoppage. Armstrong is a greater fighter than Hearns, but he doesn't beat him at 147lbs,imo

 

I don't know if that's a correct characterisation of Duran, but it's certainly not what he even attempted to do with Hearns.
He stood up quite straight, stood back and gave distance, looked like he was wanted to box, not bull or brawl.
Check the footage, there's no hint of Armstrong in Duran's performance or style.

Maybe, maybe not.
The Zivic version of Armstrong was a slowed-down version. Zivic was more durable than Hearns at the weight.
Hearns never fought anyone at welteweight who was like Armstrong.
Hearns fought only two very good fighters at welter, Cuevas who he got out early, and Leonard, who rallied and knocked him out. He beat a few other semi-good contenders and plenty of tomato cans.
Hearns seemed a bit chinny and fragile if I'm honest, more so at 147 than at 154. Spindly legs, shaky chin.
Guys like Randy Shields and Harold Weston were no killers, but they gave Hearns problems.
Aaron Pryor might have given Hearns hell if they'd ever fought.

 

Come on man

atsch

 

If I remember rightly, Armstrong was only ever stopped twice. Once in his pro debut and once by Zivic who was an even rougher, dirtier fighter than himself.

Could Hearns stop him ? Yes, certainly.
But I think Armstrong could stop Hearns too.

 

You need to look at the names on Armstrong's welter cv ,they are for the most part not exactly stellar.Pryor might have given Armstrong hell ,so what? Weston and Shields were both very good boxers, Weston was good enough to draw with Benitez, Mamby,Lewis and beat Antuofermo,Mattioli and Price. Shields gave Leonard a pretty good fight. Cuevas was a devastating puncher.

 

I think Armstrong would give Hearns a tough fight and could perhaps beat him. He's better equipped to do so that people are making out, and I believe the head-to-head rating of Hearns as a welter has become inflated. I'm not saying he wasn't a great fighter.
I guess i'll remain in the minority believing Armstrong would do a lot better than get blasted out like a baby rag doll or whatever. :good

 

No one has used the term baby rag doll. Armstrong could win, I just happen to think he wouldn't.

 

Hearns had problems when Leonard started ducking and coming inside. I think that Armstrong hit a lot harder than Leonard. Hearns would not have the benefit of getting room to box like he did against Cuevas and Leonard. Armstrong would come right after him like Hagler did.

 

Armstrong style is made for Hearns. Depending on how Arstrong fights, he might not make it out of the early rounds. Hearns is simply too big for Henry. Tommy could easily outbox him if he wanted to, or just be a boxer-puncher and eat Hank up as he tried to get inside. Either way, Henry loses this.

 

When Leonard fought Hearn in 80. Hearns was beating Leonard up until Leonard tucked his shoulder and forced his way inside. Once he did that he discovered that Hearns was not hard to hit nor was he good at taking shots.

I believe that Armstrong will start the fight off like with his shoulder tucked and do everything he can to get inside. Once he is inside the fight is on his terms. That is a big if but I think if Leonard can get inside and hurt Hearns I think the better infighting, harder hitting Armstrong should be able to do the same thing.

 

I'd give Armstrong a good chance of doing precisely that, getting inside and roughing Hearns up, smashing him with the overhand right.

I feel Hearns was a much better fighter at 153 or 154 pounds, after Leonard had beat him. He would have been too big and strong for Armstrong at that point, but as a welter I don't think so.
He didn't take a punch too well and didn't exactly react well to survive when he was hurt. He always had issues with awkward brawlers.

 

I dont think Armstrong hit as hard as Leonard ,nor as quickly. Armstrong was a puffed up lightweight, Hagler was a strong middle with an iron chin,bad comparison.