who wins ward vs abraham?

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  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Id be tipping Ward but i think hed have to take a bit of a beating to make sure to win the rounds. Hes very good at what he does but he aint like Dirrell, hes guna be more direct and close and Abraham is more comftable when his opponants aint on their toes much.

    Its quite a tasty little fight i reckon.
     
  2. Predicto

    Predicto Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward has too much size, athletisim and skill in his game for AA to deal with imo...

    You can't count a power puncher like Abraham out entirely... but it seems like a classic example of a guy having only "a punchers chance" to pull it off.

    Ward by UD.
     
  3. rjko23

    rjko23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no no your wrong!!! he has more than a punchers chance. andre dirrell is one of the best fighters in the world at avoiding shots. andre ward has other attributes but he doesnt have dirrells head movent. when abraham unleashes ward will definatly take a few shots. wether he can take them and stay standing i dont know.
     
  4. StreetsofRAGE

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    I actually think Ward's style won't match up well with Abraham and Abraham could do some serious damage to Ward. Ward's chin will definitely be tested and I think it will be a really close fight.
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward is no Dirrell. Ward likes to fight in a closer range than Dirrell. He well get caught sooner or later. Don´t know if he can take it.
     
  6. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    But he can fight outside, and he can mix it up. He's more dimensional. I would bet on Abraham not landing the power punch he wants to land the whole fight. Sure he'll land a few shots, but not the one he's looking for.
     
  7. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Ward would have to fight a far different fight to what hes used to, a sure fire way to get KO'd by Abraham is to fight on the inside trying to bully him.
     
  8. rjko23

    rjko23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yep definatly. i think the only way arthur can be beat is by a super fast counter puncher (andre dirrell) it would be a close fight, but can ward handle the power and pressure of abraham? remember he's been down before by a lesser puncher.
     
  9. 6uanaco

    6uanaco GUANACO DA KING Full Member

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    Ward is not as fast as Dirrell on his feet. And even in the Dirrell/Abraham fight, he started getting caught in the last 2 or 3 rounds.

    Ward doesnt move as much as Dirrell. Remember that. He's gonna get hit very hard and alot more than Dirrell did. We jus have to see if he can take the punishment.
     
  10. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, yes he certainly has more dimensions. Ward is a great talent. On the other hand Abraham can set traps. And I don´t count out Ward falling for at least one. And that maybe one too much.
     
  11. Landshark

    Landshark Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am calling the upset in Arthur's favor.
    1. Most boxing observers and enthusiasts know Ward is not a heavy handed fighter and Kessler is not a good example, ALL of his cuts and scrapes were caused by Wards HEAD, Arthur will not be intimidated by what Ward is going to be firing back.
    2. In his fights against Green and Kessler it seems he has a tendency to not go to the body enough, adjustments in someone like Wards case is possible but tagging AA's body is arthurs weakness.
    3. Ward likes to smother his opponents and do a lot of infighting, I have never seen an Arthur opponent brave enough nor strong enough to fight on the inside for longer periods like Ward did against Green and Kessler.
    4.Direll fights the total opposite of Ward, using the WHOLE ring, in and out and takes advantage of his GOD given speed. Ward is quick but would rather slow down the fight and grind out a win.
    5. Kessler as infrequent as it was, caught Ward a couple of times with his left hook/uppercut, one of Arthurs money punches.
    6. THe fight will b held in neutral territory with a neutral referee. Will the referee allow clinching and spoling.
    7. How will Ward adjust to Arthurs defensive style?
    8,. How will Ward react to an AA power shot?
    9. It seems the consensus is Ward breezes thru AA, I don't see it that way one bit. I was one of the few that predicted Direll beats AA. But see it different against Ward.
    I am going out on a limb here and predicting an Arthur SD or MD!
     
  12. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    :lol:When there's fights like Armstrong/Garcia 1 & 2 that also have infighting I can't really call Ward/Green a masterpiece. What I can call it is a great display of inside fighting and it also showed how much that is a lost art nowadays.
     
  13. bataglia

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    Some good questions asked. I don't agree at all with the chance of an AA decision and I do think Ward has some good body work but other than that these are relevant questions.

    Another thing that irks me is when you compare Ward and Dirrell. The have some similarities but also clear diferences in style. For example, Dirrell's power is seriously underrated. Watch his lefts against Hanshaw and also how weary he made AA and Froch be sometimes and tell me he doesn't have power. They knew even they, with their excellent chins, couldn't just barge in carelessly. Abrahams's face was marked up and his body like it either juding by his reactions.

    Compare to Ward who hit Kessler and Green with everything and couldn't get them out. In the Green fight I was like "Oh ****, that shot was clean and Green didn't see it, now he will be ready to go". The problem is, Green was still there. What I'm trying to say is that AA might not have to fight with that apprehension he did in parts against Dirrell. If AA can walk through Ward's power in order to land his own, we'll see what happens. I also don't think Ward's chin is as good as Dirrell's, which was probably underrated. Dirrell is also rangier.

    I think Ward should try to smother AA contrary to what you think. Despite his shortness, AA isn't a good inside fighter. He wants leverage. If Ward is allowed to clinch and maul, AA will likely get frustrated. Which scenario will play out depends heavily on the locations and the refs like you say.

    AA has a better punchers chance than most think (25-30% or so) but I'll trust Ward's matureness and versatility. He will know what range to fight at and has the tools to do it. As long as he doesn't get careless, which he did against Kessler in parts, he'll win by something like 118-110.
     
  14. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward does his homework and usally nutralizes his opponents power punch, Classic examples: Miranda & Green.. Reduced to home run hitters... Ward has taken the best shots from these types.. the fact is he minimizes these shos he takes... Abraham cant be walkin in with the high looking for the Power bombs he throws.. Ward eats all that **** up with his glove planted on the side of his face to block any attacks.. People always underate Ward's Power.. ( its strange how Wards opponents look sick and unable to mount any meaningful attack while looking defeated and beat while getting maulled or pot shotted..

    Please tell me this what in Abrahamn's arsenal can thwart any of Andre Ward's attributes..
     
  15. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    this is based on a presumption that Ward has a set style? Umm, i dont need to go into details but you're not too familiar with his "versatility"?

    Dirrell followed an obvious bob blueprint to breakdown AA. I would suspect Ward to do the same, but with his own small twist...