Who won? Del or Hel ?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by nick_1204, Dec 3, 2011.


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  1. Aforce

    Aforce Guest

    Stupid thing to say.
     
    Aforce, Dec 3, 2011
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  2. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Come on lads, Helenius won the fight fair and square.

























































































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    ImElvis666, Dec 4, 2011
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  3. Spearmint Rhino

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    If your criteria reward being made to miss badly, being made to fight the opponents fight and generally being outworked throughout you could have Helenius winning.
     
    Spearmint Rhino, Dec 4, 2011
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  4. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    miguel2010, Dec 4, 2011
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  5. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see Helenius has dropped and Chisora has gone up in the rankings on Boxrec. How does that work? Isn't their system computer generated and doesn't account for robberies?
     
    ImElvis666, Dec 4, 2011
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  6. BoxerGaz

    BoxerGaz East Side Boxing VIP Full Member

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    Del boy won imO
     
    BoxerGaz, Dec 4, 2011
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  7. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I didn't see the fight but as soon as I saw the judges scores I knew that Del had been jobbed. Its sad not only because it ruins boxing as a spectacle but it also reduces the earning potential of the wronged fighter in the future.

    ** With a poll score of 123 -6 claiming robbery I've got to see this fight
     
    icemax, Dec 4, 2011
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  8. Bazzel

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    I d like to see compubox numbers for the fight. Del must have outlanded Hel 2/1. Del jabbed his way in, closed the gap, and bulled him inside.

    I ve been impressed with Hellenius so far. But Del showed up most of his shortcomings. Too inconsistant with the jab. low workrate too one paced. Hes tough and strong and bangs well at mid range. But he is too limited to go far.

    On the other hand,Del looks like he could have a competitive fight with any heavyweight outside the Klitchkos If he turns up. Del v Arreola would be a agood scrap
     
    Bazzel, Dec 4, 2011
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  9. BoxingAnalyst

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    Chisora dominated most of the fight. 117-111 Chisora.
     
    BoxingAnalyst, Dec 4, 2011
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  10. nick_1204

    nick_1204 Lil Floyd Full Member

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    Things like this ruin the sport. I know people say this all the time but it is so true. I have no faith in the scoring system at all. This year has been pretty bad especially.

    Theres obviously corruption because why would a judge from USA, South America, Italy, Spain or Canada or wherever their from favour a German fighting in Germany or a Finish fighting in Finland.

    Its not a home town decision. Its a home promotion decision. Sauerland had massive influence there last night. Its just disgraceful!!!
     
    nick_1204, Dec 4, 2011
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  11. Jimjom

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    also noticed that helenius fan boy MaliBua changfed his avatar to one of chisora, wonder what the finns think of their man now?
     
    Jimjom, Dec 4, 2011
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  12. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    Anyone that thought Helenius won is a ****ing ******.
     
    Bajingo, Dec 4, 2011
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  13. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had Del Boy by 4 rounds
     
    HMSTempleGarden, Dec 4, 2011
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  14. Fat Tony

    Fat Tony Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know the exact algorithm but they do account for "hometown advantage" and "way of victory" (SD against a not rated boxer makes you loose points).
     
    Fat Tony, Dec 4, 2011
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  15. TheUzi

    TheUzi MISSION INCOMPLETE Full Member

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    The promoters had Helenius 5-1 up after the 6th for ****s sake!!!!!!
     
    TheUzi, Dec 4, 2011
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