Who won? Mosley - Cotto?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    For what it's worth I had:

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    4 rounds each with 4 drawn...
     
  2. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    I had it a draw 114-114 yet 115-113 for either fighter was acceptable to me.

    As a viewer - at least for me - the outcome has relative importance. What made this fight captivating, beside the intensity and skills displayed by both Cotto and Mosley, is the role reversal that was in effect. Where Mosley was expected to land the jab and Cotto to deliver the heavy pounding to the body, it was the other way around.

    How either fighter adjusted to the other was also interesting.
     
  3. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Total Punches: Cotto -248 of 675 (37%); Mosley - 248 of 774 (32%). Total Jabs: Cotto - 98 of 288 (34%); Mosley - 71 of 439 (16%). Power Punches: Cotto - 150 of 387 (39%); Mosley - 177 of 335 (53%).

    Shane had more than 50 % of Power Punches ( and there's a saying in boxing that if you land more than 50% of your power punches, you gonna win the fight), Shane landed more power punches so just cause Cotto threw more jabs, are we supposed to believe that he outboxed or outpunched Shane? He simply backed off like he did against Lovemore NDou at the MGM Grand, LV, NV on the undercard of JMM-Pacquiao, check the tape - Cotto eating long shots and overhand rights and ending the fight on the back foot - He definitely feared NDou's strength and Shane's power and I don't blame him! All props to Cotto for Boxing. I.Q. from round 8 onwards, that is what made the REAL difference in this fight, Cotto thought and not just fought like an animal. For that, I want to say I always loved Miguel and wish him to become a Top Welter for real.
     
  4. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Originally I gave Cotto 9 rounds the first time I saw it. I watched the fight a couple more times trying to give the really close rounds to Mosley and I ended up scoring it 7 rounds for Cotto and 5 rounds for Mosley.

    I gave Cotto rounds 1 2 4 6 8 9 11
    I gave Mosley rounds 3 5 7 10 12

    Everyround was competative but Cotto was controlling the flow of the fight with his jab and effective counters. Mosley was merely throwing 1 shot at a time, not a SINGLE combination from Mosley even landed or even attempted for that matter, Cotto was great on his feet and his defense was the reason for this. You can cry and say "Cotto ran" in the later rounds but the reality is Mosley ran because he needed to get his breath back in the middle rounds.

    Either way I believe Cotto had the jab the counters and the ring generalship to pull out the majority of the rounds because Mosley really just wasn't boxing he was fighting to KO Cotto and thats why he didn't win enough rounds.
    I don't know how anyone in the right mind could score it any closer for Mosley!:deal
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley fought a stupid fight like against Forrest in Indiana and tried to prove he had the muscle, sometimes that man-child kinda naivite from the Sugarman irritates me to the edge of my sanity and Jack doesn't do anything about it either... Ring generalship, footwork and boxing I.Q. along with a good left lead definitely made it for Cotto. Now, people gat to concede that there are other unbiased views on the same and it could have gone either way or have been a draw... Not like if it didn't go Cotto's way, it would be insane, I guess deep down anyone acknowledges that and that would be sane and wise right here in ESB... What's gone doesn't matter that much now. Cotto goes on and Shane doesn't necessarily has to go away, good fighters they are.
     
  6. InHumanForm

    InHumanForm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    shane did not win that fight, and as stated earlier just b/c he had cotto backing up in the end means jack ****. Cotto was simply BOXING and countering beautifully, not running. It's like saying Mayweather should have lost to Baldomir b/c floyd was backinh up all night.
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    You got a picture of Floyd in your avatar.

    :patsch
     
  8. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Some of ya'll are some dumbasses.

    Ya'll say that Mosley landed the harder punches because you're going off of what Compubox says about power punches.

    Well if ya'll dumb mother ****ers would wake up, ya'll would realize that any punch aside from a jab is considered a "power" punch.
     
  9. journeyman

    journeyman New Member Full Member

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    i scored it a draw on a round-by-round basis watching live, but at the end of the fight i expected cotto to get the nod. watching it back the next morning, i scored it 115-113 to cotto: some of the rounds were very close - but i can't really see the argument that shane deserved the decision when you look at the fight as a whole.

    shane looked a lot slower than in recent outings, tho that's probably down to the fact that cotto is much faster than the likes of collazo and vargas. i think shane's time has finally come - he has nothing left to prove in the sport, and i'd hate him to become a benchmark opponent for the other welter titlists. at this stage, he still probably has enough in the tank to edge the likes of cintron and williams but i could see him going downhill quickly. if it proves to be so, his one last hurrah on saturday was a great way for a legend of the modern era to call time on a marvellous career against a future hall of famer.

    thanks for the memories shane!
     
  10. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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  11. YardApe123

    YardApe123 New Member Full Member

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    The decision could've gone either way. I personally think that it should've been a draw. A rematch would be nice.
     
  12. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Not a Cotto nutugger
    2. Like & Respect Shane Mosley
    3. Watched the fight on a HUGE screen in a bar with NO SOUND!
    4. Miguel Cotto won the fight...PERIOD.

    "Mosley landed the harder shots" If you're using this criteria as your basis for scoring a fight then you seriously need to re-evaluate things. Nowhere in your scoring handbook does it mention anything about who wore the fancier shorts, who had the best hairstyle OR who landed the harder shots.