Who won Trinidad-De La Hoya?

Oscar clearly won, its actually one of his best wins and performances.

The Quartey fight was closer.

 

Agree, he only has himself to blame. Still, he banked enough rounds to cruise in the last few rounds to win. I won't call it a robbery though.

 

Oscar clearly out boxed Tito. Don King's judges won the fight for Tito. Tito was surprised that he got the split decision..............

 

de la Hoya was the "A" side and the house fighter. The fact that NONE of the judges had Oscar winning that fight, in Vegas, speaks volumes.

Tito won. You Oscar***uals need to get over it already.

 

In my book Trinidad won the fight. I score the fight on who is the agressor. Meaning who is walking forward landing no punches and getting his shoes boxed off. That's who I think is the winner.

 

I don't get the mentality that Oscar has only himself to blame or that by being too passive, Tito's ineffective aggression should result in him winning rounds or even worse making it a 10-8 round.

If a fighter is a mile ahead and it's mathematically impossible for him to lose why should cruising in the championship rounds automatically lead to a justified defeat. Win 9 out of 10 rounds then cruise the last 2 equals a loss... really, that's utter insanity. Do you really think that is justified?

I'm not saying coasting to a win is desirable as a fan we always want a fighter to fight hard for the full 12 but having a few off rounds doesn't mean the other should win. What if a fighter takes a few rounds off at the start and then dominates the rest, is that a loss?

I don't get why Oscar running and not landing is any worse than Tito marching forward and not landing. I don't get people who scored rounds for Tito by showing the ability to follow another fighter around a ring for 3 mins. If that's how you score a fight then you need to watch another sport. Yes aggression should be factored in, but it has to be effective aggression and we saw very little of that with Tito.

 

Hmmm interesting point. :think Maybe you are right, oh my god you are right. You have totally changed my view on boxing.

Stiverne clearly out pointed Wilder, look at who was moving forward. Things like punching are over rated, it's all about who is moving forward, in fact even knockdowns and stoppages don't overcome the importance of ineffectively closing the distance via moving forward. No wonder Arreola cried after the Vitali fight he was knew he was being robbed he was moving forward all night. :fire

 

How do you explain Lederman's score of a draw since Oscar was the HBO fighter? It sometimes seems to me Lederman scores ineffective aggression as 'Ring Generalship' like how he had Hatton ahead of Mayweather half way through their fight.

 

You don't know how to score a fight . In professional boxing the only time a judge can deduct a point is when the ref orders it. I can see your point in saying the ref should deduct points but this thinking is also flawed. Simply staying out of trouble after you have 9 rds in the bank is not an offence. Points are never deducted for failing to engage. The worst that can happen is a dq for not fighting in earnest but dlh was a long way from that. He was also ripped right off in Mosely 2. The judges involved in these 2 decisions are normally competent but have been known to put in disgusting cards like these.

 

Excellent post. You explain yourself really well there, BB. :good

 

I think you are failing to pick up on the guy being sarcastic here....???
I think he agrees with you and is being tongue in cheek?

 

ladyboy oscar won

 

sleep, and anyone who missed it.

 

I did pick up his sarcasm, I was running with the joke.

So in reality you failed to pick up my sarcasm, unless of course your post is sarcastic which means you are right and again I failed to pick up sarcasm. :huh

 

It's always refreshing to see fans(even if keyboard trolls/losers) continuously remind the public of blatant robberies.