Who won, Whitaker or De La Hoya?

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  1. Spitbucket

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  2. Sweet Pea

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    Because he made everyone's Golden Boy look like a fool?
     
  3. Spitbucket

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    No cause most people found him boring, C'mon you know better!
     
  4. PugilisticPower

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    That clip reminds me why Pernell lost the fight.

    How many punches did he throw in that sequence?

    In real time watching, how many punches do you think the judges thought Oscar had landed? Even if they thought he landed one, he won that sequence.

    You can't win boxing rounds with defense.
     
  5. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd love to see a gif of the flurry DLH TOTALLY misses at the end of the 10th round which sent the crowd into hysteria. If you view it from behind DLH (as was seen in the interview shown a week after the fight - not the one actually shown on HBO at the time of the fight which shows it side on ) you'd see Whitaker contort himself in an incredible way within a confined space and actually end the flurry by countering with a couple of body shots.
     
  6. Pimp C

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    You're a fool Sweet Pea is a top 15 ATG and clowned the hell out of Oscar right there. There's a reason why Oscar never gave Pea a rematch because he wanted no more of that.
     
  7. sweet_scientist

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    Judges are trained (or they should be) to dileneate a landed punch from a missed punch. If they can't do it in those sequences, then it's because they are incompetent.

    Oh and just a little reminder, DEFENSE IS PART OF THE SCORING CRITERIA.:deal
     
  8. Spitbucket

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    This is very true. Some people automatically score a sequence like that for the defensive fighter even if he did ****.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    It was a awesome display of defensive genuis by a faded fighter that made a prime Oscar look amateurish. You can win rounds with superior defense ask Pep.
     
  10. PugilisticPower

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    Defense is a part of scoring criteria, but only if you're throwing punches to counteract your opponent.

    If I was watching that sequence in real time and didn't have replays and was watching from the side of the ring, could I ascertain that Oscar missed every shot?

    Even if he did, he was the more aggressive fighter, therefore he instantly becomes easier to score for,
     
  11. PugilisticPower

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    Ah yes, the urban legend that Pep won a round without throwing a punch, which is just that, a legend.

    Yes, Pernell made Oscar look like a clown but Pernell only has himself to blame for losing.
     
  12. Spitbucket

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    Learn to read asswipe, I never said anything about Pea not being a great fighter:deal
     
  13. pryorgatti

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    They don't score sequences, they score entire rounds.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    :lol: This guy's too easy to waste your time on Scientist, he's one of those guys who claims to be an intellectual, and posts the facts to prove it, only the "facts" are gotten from Wikipedia.
     
  15. sweet_scientist

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    Defense in and of itself is a scoring criterion. The other three are effective aggression, clean effective punching and ring generalship.

    Whilst you may want to argue that DLH's aggression was effective in that sequence because it kept Whitaker at bay and didn't allow him to counter, and that he was the ring general because he had Whitaker squirming left and right, all I see is DLH being made to look foolish.