Who won, Whitaker or De La Hoya?

Correct, but much like this sequence, Pea forgot to throw throughout much of the rounds

When he was good, he was excellent.

When he forgot to throw? He gave Oscar the fight.

Simple as that.

 

DLH's aggression was not effective at all.

You're missing my point. You have the benefit of countless replays, angles and slow motion to see what actually happened in that exchange.

Apart from the very first couple of punches before Pea got away from the inside clinch, nothing landed for De La Hoya

But if you were a judge with one chance to watch that (Judges do not get ringside replay) - at full speed, not the slow down version above, can you honestly state you would have seen all punches miss, like we have the benefit of doing?

Therefore, what you do have is a guy who is seemingly throwing very quick punches, backing the opponent up.. with his opponent never once exchanging fire.

That happened all throughout the fight, Pea was too busy looking pretty and not busy enough winning.

 

Maybe I would and maybe I wouldn't, I can't say. What I can say is that if I did think DLH was landing all those shots, it would be becuase I couldn't distinguish a landed from a missed punch, which would throw my whole credibility as a judge into doubt.

 

Where as I say that the angles in which that fight took place meant at least some of those punches were thrown with Oscar's back to the judges, meaning their ability to see whether or not it landed would be entirely difficult

 

Pea clowned and danced around way too much and hardly landed anything meaningful except maybe for that lousy sloppy KD that had Oscar off balance. Oscar also landed some good shots and swelled up Pea's eye pretty good ( that indicated that he was landing for the people saying otherwise). A good close fight with a fair decision.

 

How about Pea's eye after the after..did you see that?!!atsch

 

I did, but Whitaker was hardly averse to swelling, he did it quite a bit. Doesn't mean he was hit particularly often.

 

Those were phantom punches buddy, slow the tape down and it will amaze you that pea didn't land as much as you think he did.:-(

 

The promoters !! That was by far one of the most boring fights of all time !!

 

I just think it would have been a bad decision if Pea would have gotton the victory for the way he fought, which was just a clown act and not serious about winning just wanting to make the younger fighter look bad.

 

OK, so De La Hoya was counted by punchstat as doing lesser in every category except for power shots. You want us to believe Pea landed less than they said, while De La Hoya landed more or just as many. Why? Are you saying they were biased towards Pea, despite having Oscar win by a ridiculous margin on the scorecards?

 

Did u check out the survey... I think it reads most fans believe Oscar won the fight!

 

Many have been critical of Oscar from the start and if the man doesn't win by KO then he shouldn't have won, right?! And yes I do believe two of the commentators in Merchant and Jones Jr. were favoring Pea and stating how mostly every punch he threw was landing which wasn't the case. Rewatching the fight a few times back then did not convince me that Pea deserved the decision due to the running defensive style that he implemented, but if you want to talk punchstat then power shots out weighs whatever you think Pea was landing.

 

He didn't run, he dictated the pace in the center of the ring, other than little sequences like the ones where he was clowning Oscar.

The fact is, any punch aside from a jab is a power shot, there is no distinction between the damage done or the power behind a punch, so power punch stats are overrated, especially if the fight is fought behind Pea's pace and the jab, as well as every other punchstat and tangible being in his favor.

 

Oscar.. Whitaker didnt do enough to win the fight.