Who would beat Golovkin at MW, past or present?

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I simply disagree that Saunders hits harder than Canelo.

    His volume of stoppages (regardless of the 5 or 6 lbs lower) is far greater than Saunders who has one stoppage in the past six year plus on "British" stoppage where his opponent was well able to continue.

    It's mostly the 'eye test.'

    And Canelo is bigger than Saunders on fight night, even when he was at 154.

    I would favour Saunders (slightly) over Canelo, but by a UD.

    If it's a KO, it's probably Canelo, who has superior chin and superior power.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PS

    'Proof ' doesn't come into it, in either direction.
     
  3. Jim Jeffries

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    Canelo knocked out glass jawed guys and past it, over the hill blown up fighters and journeymen at welter and junior welter.

    Saunders would school Canelo. Canelo and Oscar want nothing to do with him.

    How do you know Canelo's chin is superior? He's only been in with one big puncher and he was fighting negatively all fight. He did well but still.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You keep asking for "proof" and "how-do -you-know"
    These terms don't apply here.

    We are dealing with matters of OPINION.

    In your first post, you stated:

    "Saunders is a bigger puncher than Canelo."

    What this statement implicitly means is: In my opinion, Saunders is a bigger puncher than Canelo.


    I came back with "No"

    What that mean was, "In my opinion, he isn't"


    You came bak asking for proof. despite not having offered any proof for your original assertion.

    I mentioned that "proof" doesn't belong in the discussion, but we could present EVIDENCE.

    I presented evidence supporting my position.

    You poked some holes in my evidence and presented some counter-evidence.



    Now you're back to asking how I know Canelo has a better chin ?

    I don't know, any more than you 'know' that he doesn't.


    It's opinion formed from evidence and what I've seen of both fighters.

    I've already said that I would favour (slightly) BJ over Canelo by decision, but if I didn't see the fight and was told the result was a KO, then at a guess, I would say probably Canelo won.
     
  5. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General Full Member

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    You're the one who said ''No''. You're dismissing what i said and i asked you to provide proof but you could not. I asked you and logic overrode your opinion.

    You're comparing a guy with stoppages at welter and junior middle vs a seasoned middleweight.
     
  6. Reinhardt

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    Are we talking about the guy that got knocked out by Terry Norris?
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn`t get knocked out by Norris he got knocked down twice in their bout, the only time Leonard was stopped is when he fought Camacho in `96 because he was 40 years old, this is the man that took Duran`s shots for 15 brutal rounds in Montreal and walked down the lethal Tommy Hearns I`d say his chin gets the thumbs up at welter anyway.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no.
     
  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He wouldn't be fighting at welterweight would he? GGG kills him
     

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