Who would Canelo have to beat

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  1. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jeez, I’d nearly give him a BJ.

    Nearly.
     
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  3. Boxed Ears

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    If it weren't for Alvarez, Canelo would never have lost in the first place.
     
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  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    So, who would he need to beat to get the #1 spot?
     
  5. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going back up to 175 avenging the Bivol loss and beating Benavidez.
     
  6. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He hit Crawford enough that Canelo from 3 years prior wouldve prevailed. And Im a Crawford fanboy
     
  7. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty dumb question that you have already answered yourself.
     
  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rematch and beat Crawford

    Then Benavidez/Yardley winner

    Then rematch and beat Bivol

    If he did that, he would definitely be P4P #1.

    Note: he can't do that...............
     
  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    There's alot of pain in this post
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you think he showed Crawford too much respect? Canelo landed well to the body, but he was not able to land to the head. Bud's chin was never really tested and that's a credit to Bud's superb defense but it's also perhaps a failure of Canelo to press the action and want to hurt Bud. Having too much respect for Bud made it difficult for him to do what needed to be done to win a decision here.
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What is your reaction to the points made there? P4P Generally, Canelo falling to #10. Do you think that's justifiable for him to drop so far for a competitive decision loss to the now P4P #1? You can call it painful to see him drop, to some extent yes I don't believe that is warranted.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Realistically any one of those wins should put him at P4P #1 or very close to that. I believe that you are disrespecting Canelo in the sense that he would need to beat all 3 of those guys to reutrn to P4P #1. If we're honest, couldn't he just bypass Bud or Benavidez and just simply beat Bivol at 175? What if he stopped Bivol? I'm asking this because we don't know if Crawford will rematch Canelo and we don't know if Canelo will fight Benavidez I would think that a win over either Benavidez or Bivol at 175 would have to put him at P4P #1 or at least Top 3 one would think. And if you get that close to P4P #1 then all it really takes is a great win over another Top P4P Fighter. I do think that beating Bivol or Benavidez would probably move him up more than rematching and beating Crawford, unless it's dominant, like a stoppage or putting on a hurting on Crawford or something, not just another chess match could go either way kind of decision. A win over Bivol or Benavidez should get him right back to #1 or very close to it.
     
  13. northpaw

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    First: No one's disrespecting Canelo, the question was "Who would Canelo have to beat"......

    1. He's not leapfrogging to #1 over someone that's considered #1 that he clearly lost to without avenging that particular loss.

    2. Even if he avenges that win, it wouldn't be enough, however avenging another loss against someone that dominated him one division higher at their own weight and then taking on the boogeyman that everyone thinks he ran from (again both of these men much bigger, stronger etc....) definitely would be enough for him to become number 1.

    Hope this helps.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets make one thing very clear. No one's ever dominated Canelo and saying that he's been, by either Mayweather or Bivol is what has led us to this predicament. Don't get me wrong, the way in which Bivol dispatched of Canelo was impressive and many rounds were one-sided, mainly due to Canelo gassing out from carrying more weight and pressing the pace in the early rounds.

    As to your points, it sounds like you're arguing that he won't move up as high by beating Crawford as he would by beating Benavidez and Bivol, which is what I said as well, but even as I said that I find that odd that with Bud as the P4P #1 it is as if Canelo would get more credit for beating lower P4P ranked fighters than the P4P #1. This is a very strange situation and I'm trying to bring the oddness of all this to everyone's attention. And with the understanding that none of this really makes any sense, talk about who Canelo should be focused on fighting next, given what will be seen as a better win to move further up. You would think that after a close competitive loss that a win over Crawford in a rematch would have Canelo returning to P4P #1 but for some reason I get the sense that this has been controlled to not be allowed to happen. How could a former P4P #1 beat a current P4P #1 and not return immediately to P4P #1 based on that win?

    Despite this, if rematching the P4P #1 isn't the best way to return to P4P #1 himself (even though you would think it should be) then maybe his best bet in the eyes of the public at least is go straight into a fight with Bivol if that would move the needle more. Then Win Lose or Draw there he could go back into a rematch with Bud and reclaim what he lost. I guess what I'm asking is who should Canelo fight next if his goal is to return to P4P #1? If the answer is Bivol or Benavidez instead of Crawford that's an oddity given that Crawford is P4P #1. All this logic just exposes that the deck seems to be really stacked against Canelo these days in more ways than one.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    He would have to dramatically stomp Crawford and Bivol in return matches.

    And that isn't happening.

    Canelo had his day. A lot of them, in fact.

    No point beating a dead horse. Everyone's careers at the top come to an end.
     
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