Who would do better against the 200lb + Heavyweights post 1960 R Marciano or A Moore

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  1. janitor

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    A swarmer like Marciano, has in inherent stylistic advantage over a classic boxer, and to a lesser extent a boxer puncher.

    History has shown time and again, that a swarmer can nullify a classic boxers advantages in speed and reach.
     
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    Floyd v Manny? Chuvalo v Ali? Bonavenav Ali ?Godoy v Louis?
    Murphy v Maxim? Maxim v Mills?
    Loughran v Walker,Lomski,Uzcudun? And several hundred more?
     
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    Perhaps I'm being hard on the lad.:oops:
     
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    We don't count 200lbs because you stipulated ABOVE 200lbs.
    Even if we did, you come up short. Wrestlers!:patsch
     
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    They figured him out okay, they just ran out of legs and gas. Louis said he was easy to out box and proved it by taking early rounds. Walcott was in front when he tired.
    Marciano's style was that he had no style!
     
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    Of course there are cases where a boxer beat a swarmer, but even when the swarmer looses, he usually gives the boxer problems disproportionate to his standing.
     
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    Of course he had a style.

    He adopted and refined the style of a swarmer, because it was the only possible style for him.
     
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    And vice versa.
     
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    It was a joke J.:hey
     
  10. janitor

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    No, I would say that swarmers typically over perform against boxers, and boxers typically under perform against swarmers.
     
  11. Foxy 01

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    What ATG master boxers are you talking about? And how old were they when they faced Marciano?
     
  12. Foxy 01

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    Ali / Frazier 2 out of 3.

    Leonard / Duran 2 out of 3

    Mayweather / any " swarmer " you care to name. Unbeaten.

    I simply can't be bothered to look for the hundreds more that a little research would expose.
     
  13. Foxy 01

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    That is the pertinent part.:yep
     
  14. Foxy 01

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    There is a reason why possibly one of the best swarmer's of all time came up short against Leonard, Tommy, Hagler, and Benitez. There is no bigger defender of Duran on this or any other boxing site than me, but some times the rose tinted specs have to come off.
     
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