Who would have achieved more in the Sport - ike ibeabuchi or Edwin Valero

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  1. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    Both very exciting boxers. But both very trouble, Both were massive prospects when they were taken away from the sport.

    Who would have achieved more in the sport.

    Valero would have been mixing with the 140 fighters mow. Maybe even in with Fights against Floyd or Manny.

    Ibeacbuchi would have been in the mix with Holyfield, Lewis, Old Tyson, Klitchko.

    Who would have had the better career?
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Valero probably.

    Ike had the advantage being a heavyweight, but the Tua fight showed his limitations. He might have taken a WBO or WBA belt, but I can't see him beat Lewis in his time without getting lucky. Tyson would be a toss up, and with Holy you never know.

    Valero on the other hand was tough as nails and with huge punching power... I think he would lose a couple of big fights when stepping up in weight, but he would win most of them (would have been fun to see him in with JMM, Manny and Floyd). A P4P top 5 for sure, and maybe even better.

    Both are amongst the biggest "what if's" in modern boxing history I guess.
     
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  3. DobyZhee

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    what's the point?

    Valero's dead
     
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    So is Ike (well, not really, but he's about Holy's age)
     
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  5. DobyZhee

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    So is this thread..
     
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  6. JohnAnthony

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    Sorry your right I shouldn't make a thread like this.

    Manny vs Floyd - Who Wins?
     
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  7. prelude

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    :lol::lol::lol::rofl
     
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  8. JohnAnthony

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    I personaly think Ike would have beaten Holyfield, definetly the version of Wlad that was around back then,
    He's have had a good chance against lewis.

    Valero was very good. the way he beat up demarco, i think he'd be beat everyone right now except Marquez and maybe bradley at 135 /140.
     
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  9. JohnAnthony

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    bump
     
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  10. the commentator

    the commentator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    whats the point of you commenting on this thread if it doesnt make sense to you? make interesting thread for yourself or just **** off:thumbsup:hi:
     
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  11. Kalasinn

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    The Prez.
     
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  12. JMP

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    Ibeabuchi was a better fighter. Lewis would not have had an easy time with him.
     
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  13. Hattons Hook

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    :lol:
     
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  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Ike would have given anyone at Heavyweight a really hard time. He was a monster.
     
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  15. Hattons Hook

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    My answer would be Valero by the way. Very talented headcase.
     
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