Who Would KO Sugar Ray Robinson, At Lightheavy?

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a long list,, light heavyweight is simply a bridge too far for the best pound for pound of all time. Strangely I think Hearns was better at 175 than Ray Robinson was or could have been at that weight.
     
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  2. Omega74

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    Ezzard Charles from 1948, before the Sam Baroudi fight.
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh I'd hate to see Ray in with a prime Cincinnati Cobra, that's just not fair
     
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  4. Freddy Benson.

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    I think it's just far too big a weight divide. Across the history of the division -lots. But even narrowing it just to the time he fought if he fought at lightheavy in the 50s he would have been stopped quite a few more times.
     
  5. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jack Dillon isnt stopping Robinson. Dillon rarely ever stopped top flight competition. I dont think hed beat Robinson much less stop him.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Honestly Fergy I think a lot of them might have. Robinson though pound for pound maybe the greatest of all time just wasn’t ideally built for light heavy.
     
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  7. JWSoats

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    Granted that anything Jack 'Doc' Kearns says has to be taken with a grain of salt, in his autobiography he tells of meeting with Robinson and trying to sell him on a Maxim fight for the lightheavy title. He claims he told Ray, after explaining how he and Maxim had been ducking Archie Moore, "Now everybody knows Maxim couldn't knock your grandmother's hat off, so this is your chance. If you don't take it we'll have to fight Moore and your only chance there would be if they let you bring a meat cleaver into the ring!"
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Would definitely be a challenge for him, magoo.
    If he was gonna challenge a light heavy champ then maybe a virgil Hill type guy is more advisable.
     
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  9. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You forgot Tarver, who timed his punches pretty well.

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  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Robinson would have a good chance against Hill, yes. I wouldn’t want him against a Michael Spinks or Bob Foster or Archie Moore
     
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  11. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A bridge to far for the G.O A.T, against the best Lt.heavys in history.
    Atg's like Charles, Moore, Spinks, Foster, he's simply to small , and they'd eventually reach him with something substantial and the fight would be over, him getting ko'd.
    I'd venture to say he'd have an extremely tough time surviving against tough aggressive fighters like Qawi, Saad Muhammad, Galindez , or Marvin Johnson.
     
  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What if it was a hockey arena and it was a little chilly?

    Do we have a baseline on exactly what temperature range Robinson was able to operate at effectively at light heavy?
     
  13. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Lol.
     
  14. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I think the question could be ‘who is the best light-heavy in history that SRR could beat?’, given that he fought once at the weight and lost.

    I know there were talks between him and Moore in the 50s while Ray was middleweight champ and Moore was Light Heavy champ and that’s who he would have had to fight after Maxim if he wanted another crack at the title.
     
  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I really would have enjoyed to see Sugar Ray Robinson against Archie Moore for the Light Heavyweight title after Robinson kayoed Gene Fullmer on May 1 1957.
     
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