Who would put Haye in with among the big men

rahman

 

That's a tougher road than any current champs have had to take.

4 guys that have recently been top 10 or belt holders???


Screw that.

Jeremy Bates
Monte Barrett
Dominick Guinn
WBC title holder. (Maskaev or Peter. Good fight either way).


If he wins, fast rise up the ladder, and sets up a unification bout.

 

I think due to Haye marketability, he does not need to earn his shot the hard way. However, he would be well advised to fight some of the better guys, prior to the world title shot, otherwise I could see him being decapitated in a world title fight. He needs the practice of fighting biggest guys who can punch.

 

Barrett then Rahman...that should do it.

But I dont think Haye should go anywhere near Wlad. Horrible matchup for him.

 

I think he should take on the Brits first. Williams, Skelton, Sprott should be a bit of a learning curve for him into the heavies. Improves his profile even more in Britain.

Just out of curiosity though. Assuming he does the business against Enzo and unifies 3 of the belts. Could he not get a shot straight away at one of the champs who holds one of those titles at heavy?

 

I see Haye beating Rahman but there is still a big possibility that Hasim might catch his below average chin.

He will have a hard time against Ruiz since the quiet man is naturally bigger and has good power as long as he decides to throw and not hug (like his last fight although that was against a journeyman).

Against McCline, Haye will have his hands full. Jameel has fast hands for his size and if he comes in with a great game plan, I see him dropping Haye faster than he dropped Sham Peter.

Against Briggs, it would depend on what type of Shannon Briggs enters that ring. If he comes in unfit, unhealthy and lethargic, Haye can probably win by UD despite getting wobbled. Against a healthy Briggs, I think Haye will be brutally KOd in the 1st round since Briggs still has his handspeed and world class punching power.

I'd say Haye should fight a a couple of journeyman then prospects Chazz Witherspoon, Eddie Chambers, Povetkin, Mike Mollo or veterans like Ray Austin, Skelton, Virchis.

 

Haye needs to stay away from the power punchers of the divsion, at least for now. Bryd would be a good first fight, then challenge Brock or Chambers. I think Rahman would get beat down by Haye at this point in his career, **** he was rocked by Sykes.

I cant see him beating either Briggs or Mccline, both are naturally big men who have reputation for hurting there oppenents early in fights, Half of Briggs KO's come in the first round. While Mccline has hurt top ranked guys early and has knocked them down, guys like Brock, Bryd, Peter, and Briggs. Haye needs to stay away from power punchers, his chin is weak and will be exposed by a heavy handed Heavyweight.

 

But then everyone's gonna be on his case, for "ducking" a big hitter. Besides, he'll have to face one eventually, so why not just jump in at the deep end.

 

Haye has a strong frame, but I'm not sure he'll be a successful heavyweight. I'd have questions about his abilities to take a true heavyweight punch.

He definitely needs a few journeyman types first to get used to the bigger shots in a live fight environment.

I wouldn't go near Rahman, Ruiz, or McCline. Haye's power will look a lot less impressive against guys like that.

 

I dont know if thats a good idea, he might look like the second coming of Audley Harrison if he does that. Everybody has a different way of looking at it, but for him to challenge say Brock or even Ruiz, I cant see too many people getting on his case for that. If he does decide to challenge a Briggs or a Mccline and loses by knockout early, he will be called glass chinned and might not get another chance at a title shot for awhile until he can prove his chin is ready.

 

I think I've read somewhere Haye doesn't want to get mixed up in the endless circle of british heavyweights, who never step it up ot the next level.

I hope he doesn't. I hope he goes balls out for a heavy title, and if he gets KTFO on the way, so what. At least he gave it a shot, rather than traipsing through years of mediocrity like Danny "the legend killer" Williams.

(May be harsh on Williams, but I think he's a guy that if he had ambition and drive, could have done a hell of a lot more).

 

True enough that. I'd most certainly keep him away from Wlad, Peter, and McCline for now. However, he can't delay the inevitable. If he does the business against the first 3-4 heavies he faces, assuming their of decent quality, then people will be clamouring for him to fight one of the big hitters in the division. Boxing fans are very fickle and they'll soon forget his accomplishments at cruiser.

 

Well, it's more to do with giving Haye experience on the heavy scene. Williams is a big puncher with good boxing ability, when he decides to use it. It's a good test for Haye. Skelton's a big brawler that will not only test Haye's chin, but his questionable stamina, although it may be improved by the move up. Sprott, Harrison etc are not majorly important, but if he's looking for a stay busy fight, he could do worse.

Either way, they provide decent tests and he only has to fight them once and move on. It all comes back to Enzo though. That fight, should he lose, might set him back a bit.