Who would rank as Triple G's top 5 toughest opponents so far?

To compare Donaire and Geale in the way you have to suit your obvious agenda is simply shameless.

 

Yes. And it was a razor close fight. I scored it to Murray by 1 point. And it seemed that scoring the fight for Sergio was the hip thing to do at the time so I don't believe that "most" scored it for Murray.

Claiming the guy who lost should have won in your opinion is fine. But to anoint the glory to the loser when that was not the case in a razor close fight to fit an obvious agenda is... well, fitting an obvious agenda.

Does anyone say Joe Louis lost 4 fights because of the controversy in the first Walcott fight? Of course not. Do people say that Marquez was a former 147 pound title holder because of the controversy in the third Pac fight? Of course not... And those ill decisions weren't even "razor close" one-point-difference-either-way like Sergio/Murray was.

 

Few times has a journeyman-level fighter been hyped to the degree he was by fans for obvious agenda reasons.

The predictable usual suspects were building him up to be a legendary puncher and destroyer of souls.

The only proven commodity of Stevens is that he is not world class. And nowhere close.

 

Yeah I'll admit I overrate Golovkin's wins. I just think it's ridiculous to call a guy like Murray a "bum".

And people definitely thought of Walcott as a force at heavyweight because of how impressive he was against Louis, and many(not me) claimed marquez was p4p #2 after the second Pac fight.

 

And yeah Stevens is not a good win by any stretch but after Murray, Geale,Macklin it's hard to rank em.

 

Murray is far from a bum. It was a good win. Just not anything great. It is not a defining MW performance of the era or last decade. It is nowhere close to being close to that.

By the way I just saw your comment in the other thread about how maddening it is to hear everyone refer to former top-3-ranked fighters and former titlists as "bums." I totally agree.

 

After those big 3 he has a ton of "C-level" sort of wins (whatever that really means, I know) in Stevens, Rosado, Rubio, Monroe, Proksa, Ishida, Ouma, Adama.

They all do add up. The quantity and manner which he has bested them has led me to rank him in my top 10 P4P (or perhaps literally one spot outside of it)... I was adamantly against that being the case before the Murray victory.

 

Thanks :good. I just think that these guys who have trained their asses of and have gotten to a level I never could deserve respect. Lemieux is a top 5 win for him, and if he goes on to good after he might be near the top.

 

So who determines what actually occurred in the fight? YOU?

 

You're not doing yourself any favors by licking Bumlovkin's nutsack clean.

Murray hasn't beaten anyone and has LOST every time he's stepped up. As a matter of fact, a former WELTERWEIGHT demolished the same version of Sergio Martinez that Murray dropped a UD too. Yeah, Murray is a TOMATO CAN..

 

Not gonna argue anymore neither of us are gonna convince each other of anything. In the future you should learn to have a little respect for boxers like Murray who put their life on the line and have done well against top opposition.

 

g g g resume is a joke , everybody knows that.

only the golov****s as usual trying to hype those low level fighters

coto canelo wont fight him. they are not mw , never fought at mw

so theres nothing for ggg at mw .

he should man up ,take the ward challenge,
then after getting schooled return to the mw bumland