Who would win between Joe Louis and Tyson Fury?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Marcus_Italicus, Jun 4, 2023.


  1. Louis ko

    15 vote(s)
  2. Tyson Fury ko

    5 vote(s)
  3. Louis points

    1 vote(s)
  4. Tyson Fury points

    7 vote(s)
  5. draw

    0 vote(s)
  1. rl2

    rl2 New Member Full Member

    Jun 1, 2023
    Louis points if Fury could get on his bike like he can/could and take the body shots for 12.
    Bust up the greedy belly.
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    There is a guy in the division right now, who is about the same size as Louis, who holds three of the belts.

    If Louis is too small for him, why isn't he begging to fight this guy?

    What part of this do you not understand?
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  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 30, 2014
    I am genuinely interested in this statement. What makes you think Fury would do such a thing when he's known for notoriously prolonging the negotiation progress and changing the terms at the last second?
  4. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jun 11, 2006
    I don't know, that might actually be better for Fury. Keep him focused and busy, away from drugs and his own thoughts. I feel like he would do better fighting every eight weeks against more mediocre opposition in a "come as you are" situation. As opposed to 10 months of hype and build up to face a hyper trained peak opponent. Also losses meant a lot less back then which could make things less stressful
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  5. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Икрашевић Full Member

    Nov 3, 2021
    Tyson Fury (Wilder 2 fight) would cause big problems for Joe Louis, and win. Fury simply has too many advantages. In addition to physical (reach, height, weight), he has an advantage in footwork, and IMO ring IQ. Fury also has a good chin, and outstanding recovery.
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Resident Gadfly Full Member

    Sep 22, 2021
    This would be a weird fight
  7. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

    Jun 14, 2022
    …Until finally Fury settles for Chisora 4, and tells us all that this will be his hardest ever fight as Chisora is bigger, stronger and more dangerous than any other fighter in the history of the world.
    (Swap Chisora 4 for Wilder 4 if you prefer. Same principles apply.)
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  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 23, 2019
    Louis might have had the most powerful combinations in heavy history, and was one of the best finishers.

    Fury couldn't keep him off him, he just didn't hit hard enough and he was too Jethro (in a Carnera way) to outsmooth him.

    Louis in 10 at the outside.
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  9. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

    Dec 21, 2016
    Please, leagues and divisions apart.

    Fury is a great guy, but he is subpar as a fighter,

    Damn Near ALL the Land of the Giants are.
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  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Borderline Anarchist Full Member

    Dec 18, 2022
    Anyone who thinks Fury would demolish Louis is silly, and anyone who thinks Louis easily defeats Fury is equally as delusional. This is a competitive fight, no doubt about it.
  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    A valid argument, which people should consider further.
  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Sometimes I wonder whether Fury looked at my thread asking where you'd rate a guy who beat Wepner 12 consecutive times, and took it as a challenge.
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2023
  13. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

    Aug 9, 2021
    You make some very good points.
  14. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

    Aug 9, 2021
    Please allow me to digress for a minute or two, I started thinking about this during a thread discussing how well Naoya Inoue would or would not do against Ruben Olivares. Not surprisingly, most of the younger posters took Inoue and most of the older ones chose Rockabye Ruben. It occurred to me that the eras were so different that you could not take a boxer from 2022 and think he was going to be the same guy in 1970 and visa versa.

    If Inoue was fighting in 1970 he would be fighting a couple times during the six months in between title bouts so he wouldn't training up to a fight to be in optimal shape. By the same token, if Olivares was fighting now he he would have been out of the ring for five or six months and, like Inoue, would be at his best each time.

    Okay, that was a longer digression that I thought. I'm sorry about that. If Tyson Fury was fighting in 1939 the only way he would be making any money and the only way he would have a chance of getting a title shot against titleholder Louis is if he had been fighting regularly. Joe's first 21 title defenses were against men who had 65 total fights in the six months before they faced him. So they were fighting all the time to support their families because there just wasn't that much money in the sport. I just don't think Fury has the mental fortitude to deal with that kind of schedule and to be in the kind of shape he would need to be in to be able to defeat a fighter of the quality of Louis.
  15. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

    Jun 14, 2022
    Excellent points. But here’s another way to look at it: Fury fighting all the time to feed that huge family of his would force him to stay fit…fighting all the time has a way of doing that (unless you’re called Tony Galento!) Along with that physical fitness may well come a more focused mind…no time to be sitting at home eating everything in the fridge, (unless you’re Tony Galento!) or looking for drugs to give you a high. Fighting week in week out will be giving you a natural high, and not giving your mind time to wander.

    Louis’ era could well have been the making of Fury…in fact it may well have shown us just how good…or otherwise…he really was/ is/could have been.

    As it stands now…and this applies not just to Fury of course…fighting so rarely leaves a lot of questions unanswered.
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