Who would win between Willie pep or Julio cesar Chavez at super-featherweight?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez fought at super feather before he moved up to lightweight, I feel if there had of been a super feather division back in Pep`s day Saddler would have done well in that division and his power probably matched up well to most of the super-feathers that their have been and his reach was longer than most super feathers, so if Saddler couldn`t knock out Pep would most super feathers! Would Chavez KO Pep easily or does Pep stand a chance against the bigger, stronger Mexican legend in this hypothetical super fight?
     
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  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was Pep ever hit by someone that could punch like Chavez though?
     
  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti The Ad Wolgast of Googling Stuff Full Member

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    Pep would have a big size disadvantage. Though it's also worth considering the Sadler fights were after Pep's prime.

    Hard to pick against Pep.
     
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    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At 126? Sadler maybe, Chavez hit hard but he had to put'em together , he'd not find Willie Pep that often
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Size advantage? Chavez was naturally heavier and stronger, was Pep taller than Julio?
     
  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict booted Full Member

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    Do you know anything about Pep. Childish questions as always. Read the tape marksaad. Or did u forget
     
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    Size disadvantage.

    To be fair, I worded that oddly.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You set me right up for a 1-2 off Morlocks. :duh:facepalm::smash2:
     
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    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :duh
     
  11. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    I'd edge towards Pep, largely because Chavez wasn't at his best at 130. Up at 135 and 140, he was a machine, but I think he was tight at the weight at Super-Feather (his ribs were showing in a couple of his title fights there) and as a result he was a little easier to push back (not that Pep will be doing that, mind you) and didn't hit with the same authority, either.

    I do, however, think that Pep gets off a little easily in some quarters for his losses to Saddler, and I'm mindful that even if he's slightly below his best, Chavez still has the style and game to pull off a similar kind of victory as Sandy did. But as I said, for now I'll stick with Pep, just. Will 'o the Wisp survives a few hairy moments to take the decision.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Willie Pep would bamboozle Chavez.
     
  13. escudo

    escudo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sandy mother****ing Saddler.
     
  14. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Member Full Member

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    Chavez was a great fighter. Pep was a featherweight and not a super-featherweight, so the whole premise of this thread is not a fair question. I have a thing against presenting imaginary threads which do not conform to the facts on the ground. Sorry, Mark Ant, I respect most of your posts, but every once and a while you come up with scenarios that do not respect the reality of boxing history. I think we have enough to talk about without going beyond the boundaries of reality. The question of who was a better fighter, Chavez or Pep, is close enough that we should be fair to each fighter when we set the parameters. Weight for Pep made a difference!
     
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  15. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Pep actually fought up at 130 lbs numerous times in non-title fights.

    Prime Pep by UD, but shaken up a few times.
     
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