Who would win Haney vs Garcia in a clean match?

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Garcia vs Haney clean

  1. Garcia T/KO

    36 vote(s)
    72.0%

  2. Garcia decision

    6 vote(s)
    12.0%

  3. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%

  4. Haney T/KO

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%

  5. Haney decision

    6 vote(s)
    12.0%
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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Garcia has his number.
     
    drenlou, Jun 21, 2024
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  2. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Yup. PEDs didnt make all those bombs land… Give Regis whatever Ryan was on and he still gets pieced uo by Devin…
     
    MagnificentMatt, Jun 21, 2024
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  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So Haney against a completely different opponent then.
     
    like a boss, Jun 21, 2024
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither man will ever fight at 140 again, heck Garcia missed it last time so there's practically no reason to think that in over a year he'll make 140 and unless Haney or Garcia grab a belt at 147 they'll probably never fight again.
     
    Reinhardt, Jun 21, 2024
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  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    That left hook wasn't a result of of using PEDS. Garcia's only chance was landing the left and guess what Haney did? He kept on eating left hooks.

    If anything benefited him it was not having to worry about making weight
     
    lobk, Jun 21, 2024
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  6. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Garcia coming in over weight is probably a way bigger deal than testing dirty. I would bet the house both were on something just like any other ranked boxer. That said Garcia knows he can hurt Haney now and Haney can’t hurt a fly. That’s a really bad combo for Haney.
     
    alakran, Jun 21, 2024
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  7. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was really surprised at how open he was to it. Haney was really over sold to the public
     
    alakran, Jun 21, 2024
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  8. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    I could see Haney winning the rematch if he gets a restraining order on his chin and Ryan's left hand.
     
    PistolPat, Jun 22, 2024
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Like I said, was Ryan always on trace amounts of ostrich because his left hook has always been an absolutely lethal weapon?

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    Can trace amounts of ostrich taken the week of the fight turn you into a murderous puncher with a left hook from hell? Ryan isn't even muscular he's naturally tall and lean so it's not like took PEDs and morphed into The Incredible Hulk like Clenelo did after popping dirty

    If Haney was badly hurt by an old shot much smaller inactive Linares and hurt by a tiny blown up 126 Loma who he weighed 20lbs more than, and got rocked by tiny blown up 126 featherfist Jojo who can't punch holes in wet cardboard how in god's name would he be able to ever take a non ostrich'd up Ryan's left hook who is almost as big as him?

    And can the non performance enhancing effects of trace amounts of ostrich taken the week of the fight offset an athlete drinking alcohol and partying all throughout camp, including during the week of the fight when they're seen out in nightclubs livin' la vida loca?

    Ryan's gas tank was terrible and the only reasons he didn't spark Haney out cold were 1, because the ref did everything within their power to ensure Haney won the fight or at least t protect him from getting KO'd and 2. because of Ryan's crappy gas tank which obviously had a lot to do with him not taking training near as seriously as a world class professional athlete should be for the biggest moment of their career.
     
    Serge, Jun 22, 2024
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  10. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The minuscule amount of Ostarine in Garcia's system made no difference; Garcia's power and punch placement would always be too much for Haney.
     
    peter_uk, Jun 22, 2024
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  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I picked haney the first time and through 6 rounds he was ahead but wasn't dominating or in full control

    I actually felt that Garcia's improved right hand really helped set up the left hook. In the sixth round he started to score the right hand which gave Haney something else to think about. I felt like this two-handed attack coming forward made Haney uncomfortable on the back foot. Haney would have to make a serious adjustment in order to win the fight

    The other problem I had with Haney was his inability to go on a real offensive. There were points in the fight where Garcia was on his bike or turning his back and he did not really take full advantage of these opportunities in ways that I think other Fighters like tank Davis or Stevenson or Lopez or lomachenko would.

    Haney has been a fighter who's been faster than most of his opponents and is a better boxer than most of his opponents but his power is severely lacking and though he has very good recuperative powers he seems vulnerable. I thought going into the first fight that he was going to be able to shut down Garcia and win handily and a lot of that was based on what I thought was a cowardly performance by Garcia against Davis I didn't think he had it in him to win a big fight at the highest level and I was proven wrong

    If Garcia doesn't totally implode I think he has enough to win the rematch. Haney might go the distance again
     
    KO KIDD, Jun 22, 2024
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  12. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    In a clean match Haney ain't making weight...
     
    It's Ovah, Jun 22, 2024
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  13. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Ostrichine actually makes your left hook invisible for a fraction of a second. Been proven in lab rats that throw hooks.
     
    FrankinDallas, Jun 22, 2024
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  14. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ryan would be the favorite but Haney can beat him. Ryan is all about that left hook. He's a one trick pony. Train harder to avoid that and it's possible.
     
    Babality, Jun 22, 2024
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  15. Joy_Rones

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    People acting like Garcia was on Getafix's magic potion. He had traces of a ostarine, which is not even an anabolic steroid.

    2-3lbs for a guy who downed a whole beer before the weigh in is pathetic. Haney rehydrates 20 lbs lmao
     
    Joy_Rones, Jun 22, 2024
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