Who would win, prime Tyson Fury or prime Vitali Klitschko?

I come up with facts and points. You mis respect facts and twist logic. Try coming up with points like I do for a change. You're wrong, Vitaly beat more than 7 ranked men. He's way more tested than Fury who will drop out of the Head to head ratings as soon as he losses ,or again gets get busted for PED abuse. Mark those words. Once he fight better than Wilder, well see.

 

I don't worry about much of anything ,particularly posters who resort to name calling from the safety of their keyboard at the first sign of an opinion differing from their own.Let's give each other a miss ,arguing with a fool just demeans me.

 

You've come up with irrelevant "facts and points".

Explaining to you that your facts and points help to form a weak argument is not twisting logic.

I have come up with several points, none of which you have addressed.

Vitali's age and longevity have little-to-nothing to do with the question.
Chisora, as a common opponent, is not a sound benchmark, upon which to base a comparison. It is a fact that:
- Fury was 14-0, when he met Chisora.
- Chisora was 15-2 and had lost two of his last three bouts, when Vitali picked him as a title defense.
Fury has become the Lineal Champion; Vitali never achieved the same.
Of the Ring-Rated opponents Fury has faced, he his 3-0-1 against either Champions and/or Top-3 rated guys; Vitali is 2-1 against Top-3 rated opponents.

The above are clearly facts you don't like.

Name them.

Vitali failed his test against, the aging Lineal Champion of the time.
Fury passed his test, against the aging Lineal Champion of his time.

^More facts^

As far as the thread's question is concerned, I couldn't care less about subjective ratings.

Fury will always have had the measure of Vitali, in my opinion - rating or none.

Re "PED abuse": (Hi Mendoza - you are just as ignorant as ever)

Fury beat Wlad, who was, at the time, seen as a huge step up in class and 5-1 on to win. Fury won comfortably - it wasn't even close - and he did it in Wlad's backyard.

That's better than anything Vitali has on his ledger, since he lost to the best two fighters he faced, both by stoppage, and went on to build a low-grade career-record, which is widely considered to be poor, historically.

 

I think Fury wins a fairly comfortable UD.
I don't think a robot can beat Fury.
Vitali's overrated anyway, his whole standing is based on a losing effort against a shopworn and unmotivated Lewis.

 

You deserved to be called a dope for misquoting me and presenting me with fake news articles. Misquoting people is something your old nemesis used to do all the time on here. As i said , I though you were a better man that. . Btw , you reached to me. Don't engage if you're not prepared to take what comes back.. We're done now so let that be that.

 

Normally yes. But in this case Vitali was wearing a helmet + the kick from Reid was not even full accelerated, you can see it on the speed.
I dont think this kick had the same power as a Wilder or Lewis punch.

Here is a full accelerated spinning back kick by Peter Graham vs Badr Hari.

https://external-preview.redd.it/7v...if?s=800ef3769944fcd5209f4c48e92997627a30f7e1


The reason why Vitali was KOed was imo because he simply didnt saw the kick coming, same as Valuev when he made a chicken dance vs Haye in the 12th round.

Blind punches/kicks hurt anyone, even so called iron jaws.

 

Fury outboxes Vitali. The Gypsy King would give too many angles and be all together too awkward for Klitschko. Would be a very good fight though.


Fury by UD

 

Nice. Harassing posters?

 

That's a fair post. Kicks to the head tend to end fights quickly though, in the matches I have seen. I also think the later Vitali, though perhaps not as quick as this version, had gained quite a bit of punch resistance.

 

It's done now ,let sleeping clods lie.

 

Ok.