Who would you favor to be Hearns at 147-154 over the last 15 years?

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  1. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would favor no one on that list. Williams just might have a shot at 154 due to his physical attributes, and maybe Floyd can stay on his roller skates long enough to squeak out a decesion but I doubt it. Maybe Hopkins or Roy Jones Jr. at 160 - 168 could give Hearns problems.
     
  2. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I give Ray Robinson at 154 lbs a good chance at beating Hearns, thats all i can think of below 160 lbs.
     
  3. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe Hopkisn or Jones at 160 - 168? Now that's overrating Hearns, who was a monster puncher at 147 - 154. At 160 and above, he was still an excellent boxer but not the menacing puncher and by no means invincible. Hearns was KO'd by Leonard, Hagler and Barkley, Jones KO's Leonard and Barkley and most likely decisions Hagler. Hearns won a decision against Hill, Jones fell Hill with a body shot. A prime Jones beats Hearns 10 out of 10.
     
  4. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    Yeah I think only the two Sugar Rays beat Hearns prime-for-prime below 160.
     
  5. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Although I'm not saying none of them guys has a chance...I think you've got to be a bit crazy to favour anyone on that list over Hearns!!!
     
  6. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    No-one.

    Floyd:
    Too defensive. Hearns was lightning fast and could throw punches out of nowhere with that 78" reach. Mayweather has shown serious vulnerability to fast, precise punchers - he lost to Castillo the first time, struggled with Oscar and was getting outclassed by Judah while he was fresh. Hearns backs him up with that fast jab and lands enough on the ropes to box to a decision, or a stoppage if he decides to turn on the heat. Hearns by UD.

    Oscar:
    Oscar is perhaps the only one I think could trouble Hearns. Stylistically, he has some resemblances to SRL - a well-rounded boxer with good punching ability. If he pushed the fight and caught Hearns on the chin, we all know what would happen. On the other hand, Hearns might just be able to get on his bike for long enough to stop DLH trading, and DLH isn't as elusive as Sugar Ray was, so I don't think he'll be able to go all-out in the same way. I think Hearns would just outbox him to a decision, and not bother trying to wipe him straight out. Hearns by UD.

    Tito:
    Trinidad isn't elusive enough to be able to avoid getting knocked out cold. He tries to fight aggressive against a far bigger, far stronger, far faster fighter and gets finished early. Hearns by KO.

    PW:
    PW is pretty much Tommy Hearns, just less fast and much less powerful. The writing's on the wall. Hearns by KO.

    Cotto:
    Hearns could quite comfortably outbox Cotto. The disparities in height and reach are almost amusing, and Cotto's also a lot slower. I think Hearns would constantly beat him to the punch. I don't think Cotto would be able to get in the inside, either. Hearns moves fast when he wants to, and only guys with rocks for jaws who are willing to take punches on the way in, or truly outstanding ring generals like SRL, can get close to him. Hearns by UD.

    Sweet Pea:
    I think this has a similar result to the Mayweather fight. Hearns gets on his bike and wins a decision.

    Pac:
    Pacquiao is way too small to tango with Hearns, and he'd get brutally gobbled up. Pacquiao is bloated at WW, whereas Hearns is just right. Head movement or no head movement, an aggressive fighter like Pacquiao is just a sitting duck for that right hand from range. Like Duran, he just wouldn't be able to "get under those long arms".

    Kermit:
    Who?

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    For that reason, I've always maintained that only really guys like Marvin Hagler can beat Hearns decisively. You have to have a seriously granite chin, and be willing to take a pummeling to get on the inside and have a go on that chin. Very few fighters can do that.
     
  7. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    What was the point of making a poll if it's not multiple choice?

    You fail.
     
  8. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Hearns remains the only person ever to hurt Hagler, and that was at 160. Even late into his career when he was fighting all the way up to Cruiserweight, he maintained his ability to take out guys with decent chins in the first and second rounds.

    RJJ vs. Hearns is pretty much a toss-up between two fragile jaws. At 160 I still think Hearns has more power, but RJJ is probably more elusive. Hearns might come sstraight out of the traps and look to back RJJ up and knock him out (which, washed-up or not, he showed vulnerability to against, for example, Tarver); on the other hand, he might just get caught with a counter-punch and blasted out himself.

    It's difficult to predict if neither fighters decides to trade, but opts to box though it's worth bearing in mind that Hearns was still probably faster, and taller, and had a better reach, which might give him the edge in outside fighting.

    For the record, I think RJJ's chin would also be a liability against Hagler.
     
  9. Danny_Rand

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    Roy Jones Jr would have knocked out Hearns or won by wide decision. Jones in his prime was just as talented as Leonard.
     
  10. NeckBreaknAiken

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    The fact that two idiots voted for Pac tells me all I need to know.:patsch

    @ 147? This motha****a won't fight Shane above 144 and somebody got the nerve to say he can fight Hearns at 147 and be favored?:lol::lol::lol:


    How exactly is he gonna do it? Seriously. :huh
     
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    Iran Barkley
     
  12. MAG1965

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    none of them. Shane couldn't beat Vernon so how could he beat Hearns. Hearns would stop Shane. Hearns was too big for Cotto and too good and Oscar just couldn't compete. In that list I am not sure who could beat Hearns. Maybe Whitaker by decision, but Hearns would outbox him and win a decision like he did against Benitez.
     
  13. MAG1965

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    With Hearns at welt you have to look at SRL or SRR as who could beat him. And he fought one of them. Those guys were exceptions and could of beaten Hearns. Hearns was unlucky that he came up in Ray's era.
     
  14. DirtMcGirt

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    I agree there is only a couple of WWs in history i would favour over Hearns.

    But he is liable for the odd upset. A guy like Tito would be a very live dog.
     
  15. MAG1965

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    maybe so but Tito would be more open to the right hand and Hearns speed. I think Tito is not as big a problem for Hearns as say Curry might have been. But Hearns would have beaten Curry.