Who would you favor to be Hearns at 147-154 over the last 15 years?

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  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Tito and Floyd imo have the best chance to beat Hearns imo.
     
  2. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For anyone picking Floyd to beat Hearns, please tell me how?

    What advantages does Floyd have, compared to Hearns?

    How many fights has Floyd even had at 147 or 154 to be compared at those weights to Hearns?

    I can't see Floyd stopping Hearns. I can barely see a man dwarfed by about 6 inches in height and god knows what in reach, out boxing a very good, very fast and much under rated boxer from the outside. And I certainly don't see him fighting Hearns on the inside in a brawl like Hagler.
     
  3. Jorodz

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    i know everyone will laugh BUT does anything think norris would stand a chance?
     
  4. KOTF

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    No he'll be buzzed early.

    If only Mike McCallum was prime 15 years ago then I might pick him to beat Tommy Hearns
     
  5. Kaki

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    lol no. hearns would shatter his jaw. a right hand from hearns could probably kill norris at 154. hearns' jab could floor him. norris was a fine boxer at his best though and explosive with sweet footwork.
     
  6. PugilisticPower

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    Floyd and Pea both beat him in my view.
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He would, just not a very good one. Stranger things have happened.
     
  8. Jorodz

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    exactly, i mean without the chin he had a lot of the tools necessary to give hearns a tought argument. But putting in one of the worst chins in division history against one of the hardest hitters in it's history, well it'll be julian jackson all over again. Still the best 154 lber ever...
     
  9. Jorodz

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    Pea at 147 had a chance but i can't go with Floyd. the only way to beat hearns was to hurt him; he outboxed everyone he ever met (with the bizarre exception of the second barkley fight). Floyd wouldn't even faze him
     
  10. PugilisticPower

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    Floyd is one of the most under-rated yet over-rated fighters of all time, it's quite annoying.

    He is one of the best tacticians in the ring, ever, period.

    His defensive technique and ability to keep the opponent at the range he wants to fight is amongst the best, ever, period.

    I don't see Hearn's having as much success with his jab against Floyd that he had with other fighters, which would limit his ability to keep Floyd at the distance Hearns fought best at.

    While Hearns had a great left hook and a beautiful straight right - they were both range/reach punches, he was not a good tight hooker which is the one punch Floyd can get caught with.

    Floyd with superior defense and footwork, not to mention faster hands and a better inside fighter would in my view, get in on the inside and bust Hearns up.
     
  11. Jorodz

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    Your argument is sound EXCEPT for footwork which is how hearns will create the distance. mayweather's footwork is far below what it once was at 147 and especially in the oscar fight. hearn's movement is tremendous when in boxer mode
     
  12. PugilisticPower

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    I never considered Hearns to be exceptional with footwork, for me, his ability to keep his opponents off balance with that awkward jab of his allowed him to keep the distance he loved boxing at.

    I've never seen Floyd get hit flush with anything that wasn't a tight inside punch, that's his vulnerability in my view, being countered as he omes in against fast handed opponents.

    Their fight comes down to whether or not Floyd can nullify the jab. If he nullifies the jab like I believe he would, then he removes the distance that Hearns operated at, as well as the ability for Hearns to setup the right hand bomb.
     
  13. WhataRock

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    His inability to keep Castillo and an old Hoya where he wanted them certainly doesnt support that point.
    He certainly isnt the best Ive seen at doing this...probably one of the best of this era but not ever.

    Floyd could barely bust up Zab Judah...He had average power at welterweight and just wasnt that good at the weight.
    He was troubled by the jab and size of an old Oscar...Hearns is bigger, more powerful and just plain better then Oscar ever was.

    People are talking as though Floyd would be the aggressor in this fight and Tommy would be the on the back foot trying the keep his distance.
    That would not be the case...Tommy would be forcing the issue and pressuring Floyd..using his size and skills to make Floyd wary of engaging.

    The question isnt whether Floyd beats him...its whether he makes the distance or not.
    Its absolute madness to say otherwise.
     
  14. birddog

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    No one this list has a more than 10-20% chance at best to beat Hearns. Hearns chin is not as suspect as folks make it out to be, it only became an issue at 160. Throw the Leonard fight out, Leonard was a great and Tommy still a little green (or he would have known how to clinch), still gave Leonard more than hell.

    For anyone picking any of these folks, please make a valid tactical/strategic argument as to why and how. Otherwise the opinion is irrelevant.

    The Sugars are the only ones, there's a reason why SRL stayed away from a rematch for so long. High risk.

    160 is where TH started to have problems, but still could bomb out bigger guys.

    None of these guys matches up well against Hearns.

    Amazing that there are 7 pages about pigs being led to a slaughter.
     
  15. Jorodz

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    honestly, he's been mentioned but the only person i'd give better than 20% odds is mccallum based on chin, technique and body punching. he wouldn't be CLOSE to being favoured but hell, he's better than the rest