Who would you have as fighter of the year?

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    CJ You are an absolute riot. I've never met such a funny guy before. It's absolutely hilarious seeing you continually detract from Mayweather and Canelo on a daily basis.

    I will say this - the match vs Ortiz should have been a No Contest. Cortez was absolutely abominable as a referee in that contest. You can't become distracted like he did and take your focus off the fighters in such a crucial situation like that. I've never seen a referee so poorly manage a situation in my life. I don't think you can DQ'd Mayweather there because 1) he was getting headbutted by Ortiz 2) Ortiz kept trying to hug him and make up and 3) the referee was not in control of the situation and Mayweather can argue he thought Cortez left them to resume fighting.
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :facepalm: Holyfield fought at CW when the limit was 190.
    But I do see your point. But there is a problem I have.
    Usyk was 215lbs in his heavyweight debut. And it´s not like he is a skinny guy.
    Look at the top 10 boxrec HW contenders(besides Usyk and Hunter):
    Fury - 270lbs
    Wilder - 230lbs
    Joshua - 237lbs
    Povetkin - 224lbs
    Ruiz - 283 lbs
    Whyte 252 lbs
    Chisora - 260 lbs
    Ortiz - 236 lbs
    Pulev 248 lbs
    Parker - 245 lbs

    We have weight classes for a reason. And this is undeniably the era of Super-Heavyweights. Usyk should get full credit for his Cruiserweight run.
     
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  5. NoNeck

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    Povetkin never lost to anyone as bad as Whyte in a two decade career.
     
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  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Yea i have

    Your valuation of Wilder imo is daft

    He isnt the best HW champ ever, in fact far from it

    However your critique of him is crazy imo

    Regardless, he still had to stop him
    As we saw, he wasnt getting anything on the cards

    Its a big deal anytime a fighter wins a title abroad regardless as they face obstacles alongside any fighter across the ring
     
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  7. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's because he's a goddamn legend.
     
  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most likely (So far) Lopez or Fury. Both had huge wins.
     
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  9. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because Wilder was a world champion doesn't mean is one of best HWs at present. I mean no one consider ls Martin to be one of AJs most 5 impressive victories just because he was WC and rightly so (despite handling Washington much easier than Wilder did).

    Really have to consider resumes and the quality of opponents (in wilder case they were hand picked and poor).

    Compare Wilder best 5 wins with Whytes

    Wilder
    Ortiz x 2
    Duhaupas
    Washington
    Spzilka

    Whyte
    Parker
    Chisora x2
    Rivas
    Helenius

    It's clear Whytes resume is superior. Parker is level above Ortiz and its debatable that Rivas and Chisora a on par with Ortiz.

    If Wilder goes on to beat a Hunter, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker or Ruiz then fair enough he would backed up his at present overhyped reputation.
     
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  10. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Never reflected on it from that perspective but it makes sense
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    So do these standards apply to all guys who drain weight and/or fight at ******* divisions?

    Do you give Errol Spence any credit for his whole career, which has been spent weight draining down 15-20lbs? Same with Canelo, or Crawford?
     
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  14. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Nope. If your over 200 pounds your a heavyweight. Weigh ins should be irrelevant.
     
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    If you're 165lbs, you're a super middleweight, not a welterweight. So why don't you give Spence ****? Or if you're 155lbs, you're a JMW (not a LW loool), same goes for Crawford. If you weigh in 170lbs then you're a light heavy, not a junior middle, so why do you give Canelo credit? All of these guys get credit, despite committing the exact same sin, but worse since it's more of their full body weight percentage, yet you don't critique them.

    Having a go at cruiserweights for fighting a cruiserweights, is as ridiculous as laughing at junior middleweights for fighting at 154. It doesn't make sense, logically, or in practice.
     
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