I'm going to scrap the 'How To Beat' idea because it doesn't seemed to have gained much interest and I can't be bothered. Instead, I'll just create a thread here and I'd like to hear some insight and discussion as to who you think can beat the following fighters: This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected So, who would you pick to beat each of these fighters, or do you think that any of them are unbeatable at their respective weights at these respective times in their careers? And of the fighters you pick, what is it specifically about their styles and qualities that you feel gives them the edge or a great chance of victory? How exactly do you see the fight going. Thanks in advance for any replies, hopefully this generates more interested then the Robinson thread.
I enjoyed taht How To Beat thread, i can see this one being abit of a mess with all the names though Ill be back
It probably will be a bit of a mess and I'm expecting it to go off-topic a bit, but I don't have the energy to do the 'How To Beat' threads anymore if I'm honest.
1996 Lewis & 1991 Holyfield would both destroy a 1987 Tyson. A 1993/2000 Lewis & a 1988/1996 Holyfield probably would as well.
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Well i think Holyfield would have beat any version of Tyson, I dont think the Younger Tysons head movement and better combos would have made as much as a difference as many others think , Early Tyson would do well but after 6 rounds it would go the same way as their fights in the late 90s. At 168 im not sure anyone beats Jones, however if he fought a 175 Spinks or Foster im sure they would both ko Jones. Ive always thought Hearns had the style to beat Jones if his Chin held up but i dont think it would. Mccellan gave Jones fits in the Amatuers, And he might have been able to do it in the pros. However if he doesnt catch Jones early Jones would beat him How about Arguello at 126 against Sadler, I think this would be a very close matchup. I think Salvador Sanchez would also have a good shot. However Sadler was rough and savvy enough to maybe be even those guys. Also had great power but i dont think either would knockout eachother. How about Manny Ortiz outhustling Jofre at bantam. Ill have to think long on the other fighters you mentioned get back to you.
I agree with your point on Holyfield vs Tyson. Strange thing is, nobody knew this more than Holyfield himself, and probably Tyson as well. Tyson couldn't outbox Holyfield, couldn't KO him, couldn't out-man him either....... just an example of one fighter having the other's number. I just wish I'd have been old enough to grab the 25/1 on Evander..... what was it by stoppage in the 1st fight? Only Ron Borges picked Holyfield - a noted Tyson hater!
Yey Holyfield stopped him in 10 and after an extended beatdown. I also agree that Holyfield had his number from back in the amatuer days and would have beaten him everytime they fought. However i disagree with the post who picked Lewis, Tyson did good in the first round of their fight. I think A young Mike eventually catches Lewis and kos him.
It's an interesting arguement that Holyfield would always have the beating of and one that I've found many agree with, including myself. I think even an '87 version of Tyson at the peak of his powers would really struggle with Holyfield. I see it going similar to the first fight in number of ways, even though Mike was clearly a more complete and better fighter all-round in '87 than at the time of the first fight. I think Holyfield would continue to frustrate Tyson with excessive clinching, leaning, hitting & holding, leaning in with the head, elbows etc and really take Mike out of his rhythm. That first fight aswell he showed great strength on the inside to back Tyson up and try to put him on the back foot and take away his power & leverage. From a general perspective, I just think Holyfield is too smart for Mike. I think he knew what he had to do to offset Mike from a mental perspective, by remaining unintimidated and frustrating him, and in doing so gained the upper hand in which he could really on his technical skills, durability and ring-craft to get the job done.
