Who would you rather believe, Ross Greenburg or Leonard Ellerbe?

Lol exactly, as usual nothing you can say nothing, it's there for all to see.

 

LMAO AT puga_ni_nana continuing this after many people have explained it. He doest want to get it. Everybody know Manny has to take the test like it or not. From Mayweatehrs side he is not budging on it weather the fans like it or not.

 

Prime Ross "Mean Joe" Greenberg UD 12 Leonard "The Rub" Ellerbe

 

I don't know if he was faking or not. Why you are focusing on Ellerbe is puzzling to me. Arum surmised it was Haymon that Greenburg was negotiating with from Floyd's side. Although Haymon has never corroborated this. Nor has Greenburg, as far as I know.

It seems that you are holding on to this second negotiation issue as a means to rationalize what has become apparent over the last two years. No test...no fight. Floyd won't budge on it, Manny won't agree to it.

"But, but, but that second negotiation happened, and Pac agreed to everything, which made Floyd lose his urge".

Sure, man...OK.

 

First you throw in a line "Who gives a **** "if Greenburg is lying"" and then follow it through with diversion.

And you want me to do a sensible response to your stupid post.

You're so stupid that your first catch for a response is...

"Lol exactly"

Is Greenburg Lying???

Answer that then build the foundation of your argument from it moron. Stop wasting my time.

 

what? you just love typing on this issue its funny. If the vote makes you feel better great.

You are going off peoples word thats it. You choose to side with one for your own agenda.

Its been analyze you just refuse to comprehend. People can have different definitions of "negotiation".

Things are not always black and white things are grey.

At the end of the day we know Manny did not agree to OSDT up to the day of the fight. And at the end of the day that has to happen for the fight to happen now type away with a response while I laugh. :rofl:rofl

I want this fight to happen so this can all end.

 

Hmmmm....The Jew or the black guy :think

That's a tough one

 

rightttttttttttt u refuse to talk about the issues because then that might change your outlook on what the definition of "negotiation" is to certain people

 

What is your definition of "Negotiation"?

 

Anyway, it's not really a simple question to answer just using the facts at hand. Everyone who attempted to explain what happened, in the media, used more conjecture than actual facts to describe what occurred. Even Arum had to surmise whom Greenburg was talking to, on the other side. Because, it was not clear whom he was negotiating with on behalf of Floyd.

Why would Greenburg, who would want people to believe the fight was in the process of being made, not mention whom he was talking to make the fight happen?

Just leads to more questions, to which there are no clear, fact based answers.

I don't have enough evidence to say I should believe Greenburg over Ellerbe, or vice-versa.

 

1. one side offering something they know the other side will not agree on is not negotiating...if pac was still set on the 14 day cut-off that was taken off the table as soon as mosley agreed to no cut-off testing, it was not negotiating.

2. why should schaefer talk about something that isn't happening? why should he waste his time and press on discussing another promoter and a boxer he makes nothing from?

3. have you not be keeping up with ODLH's insanity...and he very well could have been misquoted