Who ya got ranked higher Liston or Tyson?

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  1. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most probably have Ali and Louis 1 and 2 on an all time HW list and a case probably can be made for spots let's say 3-12. But it seems to me that , that Sonny and Mike are probably close for most around 8-12 .. So who ya got higher?
     
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  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. PhillyPhan69

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    1-2 Ali Louis
    3-4 Holmes Lewis
    5-6 Wlad-Foreman
    7-10 Frazier Tyson Holyfield Marciano
    11-13 Dempsey Liston Johnson
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably Tyson, though I'd favor Liston in a match up with Mike
     
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I rank Tyson 10th on my heavyweights list, and I rank Liston 7th for what it's worth
     
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  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    It still hurts to read that
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Great, rational list. I agree almost entirely.
     
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  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Weird I thought of it as a compliment lol
     
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  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Feels weird to see Marciano not even break single digits

    Actually now i have an idea for a thread
     
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  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Jack Johnson
    4. Rocky Marciano
    5. Lennox Lewis
    6. James J Jeffries
    7. Mike Tyson
    8. George Foreman
    9. Larry Holmes
    10. Evander Holyfield
    11. Ezzard Charles
    12. Joe Frazier
    13. Wladimir Klitschko
    14. Sonny Liston
     
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  11. PhillyPhan69

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    Hey single digits is possible I don’t rate him 10, I rate on tiers and have him sharing the 7-10 line
     
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  12. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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  13. Glass City Cobra

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    Resume:

    I have tyson slightly ahead. Liston did what he was supppsed to do and cleared out his division patiently waiting for a title shot while being ducked by many of the top guys. But his division wasnt that great and he was an unmotivated alcoholic in his late 30's/early 40's by the time a truly great prime fighter arrived (Ali).

    Tysons kind of the opposite. He had an amazing rise to the top and decimated many top guys but when he faced the elite peers of his era he beat a few but mostly came up short. Like Liston he lacked motivation, had prison stints, got caught up with drugs/alcohol, etc.

    In h2h, even a prime tyson would have a hard time with liston at his best. Id favor tyson slightly. Liston's battering ram jab, long reach, stamina, underrated ring iq, killer instinct, and having vicious power behind every punch in the book means hed always give tyson problems. Tyson has defense, head movement, and hand speed. I would actually say theyre even in combination punching. Itd be a hell of a fight.
     
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  14. salsanchezfan

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    Tyson, without question.
     
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  15. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. For a short time Tyson ruled the heavyweight division with an Iron fist.
     
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