who your pick for dec usyk or fury -??

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  1. Cage

    Cage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk by SD/UD
     
  2. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    I think it's fair to say Usyk is favourite but Furys a live underdog.

    I do think in the first fight Fury fully believed this so called middleweight couldnt hurt him, and after 7 rounds, in his own head he was toying with Usyk, that it was just a matter of time till he stopped him.

    Of course, all of that tipped on its head in the 8th when Usyk completely ****ed up his nose and the rest was history.

    This time, Fury goes into this fight knowing full well the middleweight can hurt him and that at no stage will this be easy. He has to be st his absolute best to win.

    In turn, I think this will make Fury much more focused in the ring, with a higher level of concentration, and a higher degree of respect for Usyk as a fighter and his power.

    One of Furys biggest problems his entire career has been complacency and over confidence, it brings out the absolute worst in him. McDermott, Cunningham, Ngannou are prime examples of that nonchalant complacency that sees him think something will be very easy and it turns into a big problem for him.

    I think McDermott 2, Chisora 2, Klitchsko, Wilder 2, Whyte are examples of a fully focused, switched on Fury where his concentration and mentality is night and day compared to other fights.

    Fury is at his best when hes underdog, when he has something to prove, I wont be surprised at all if he wins this fight surprisingly comfortably on the scorecards.
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Only problem is that Usyk made the necessary adjustments after the 4th round and got back into the fight. It´s not as if Fury gave the fight away, Usyk took it from him.
     
  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Fury took his best condition and focus possible into a fight he’d been avoiding for some time.

    Usyk rds 1-3. Fury rds 4-6. Usyk rds 7-8.

    Usyk up 5 rds to 3 rds going into the 9th with increasing momentum on his side.

    Blind Freddy could see that the ref saved Fury in multiple ways from a KO/stoppage in Rd 9.

    The ref impeded Usyk at least twice during his onslaught in rd 9 - on one of those occasions Olek had to literally shove the ref out of the way in order to get to Fury to continue his assault.

    The ref obviously delayed ruling a KD to save Fury from an automatic 10-8 rd.

    The ref ultimately stepped in to rule a KD to save Fury from losing the fight altogether
    via stoppage/KO.

    The ref was also kind enough to assist Fury part way back to his corner at the end of rd 9.

    Maybe 60-40 Usyk for the rematch.

    For Fury to do any better in the rematch would only be by way of Usyk having lost a step or two and/or losing the focus he took into the first fight.
     
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I agree fully
    An absolute fool to write him off, he did look so comfortable early on

    I still think he has a solid chance. I can't wait to see it
     
  6. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Respect your opinion but completely disagree. Yes I think Fury has been guilty of complacency in his career and 'fighting down' to the level of his opposition. However his actions prior to the Usyk fight (avoiding it, claiming he didn't need to fight Usyk, unusually aggressive press conferences, the weird one man presser in Morecambe) make me think he was well aware of the threat Usyk posed - in fact I think he was spooked by him.
    I still feel Fury will be dangerous in this rematch but I don't believe for a second he was complacent going into the first fight
     
  7. ash234

    ash234 Ash Full Member

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    Usyk late stoppage.
     
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  8. Shootlow

    Shootlow Member Full Member

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    Fury at his worst, are you serious? Give over that was the best Fury we've seen in a long time and no way was it the best Usyk neither. Usyks best is behind him but he's still better than any heavyweight out there.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My money is not liquid but I will entertain any reasonable bet.
     
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  10. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'm just saying
    If you are so sure? At least put on a sizeable bet
    Usyk can't lose
     
  11. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    I actually think this one will be even more competitive in the first seven or eight rounds than the first fight until Usyk finds that next gear. I think he bombs Fury with a right hook this time. I think by these later rounds Fury will be really tired because Usyk will invest those straight lefts to the body earlier and more often. Usyk has him out on his feet only this time it will be early in the 9th or 10th round. Fury hits the deck after a couple hard left hands. Gets up… Usyk sets up the finish with an atomic Left hand. Fury goes out like Bellew did. OUT.
     
  12. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Yes, there are other factors not at all related to Usyk’s proficiencies and superiority that could come into play in all possibility to affect the complexion/outcome.

    The first fight gave us glimpses of same. The inequitable refereeing, the judges score cards,….

    I understand you’re saying Usyk is a sure bet otherwise but, of course, not plonking a huge amount down doesn’t lessen your reasonably interpreted conviction.
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Usyk by KO. Fury is done.
     
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, if you want to make a sizable bet of some sort, I will entertain it. I do not and have never been a gambler, though, so its not like a test of my belief.
     
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  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I would entertain a bet, but I'm not the one that is certain mate

    We will just wait until December. You believe Fury has zero chance that's your opinion and right. However, if Usyk loses prepare to eat major crow