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Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KINGWILDER, Jan 23, 2024.


  1. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But if we're talking about the weakest of all time... isn't this exactly determined by h2h hypotheticals? Nowhere in your opening post do you talk about achievements in your own time... which has nothing to do with how weak or strong you are compared to other champions across eras.

    Who was the best (or worst) champions, if we're talking about achievements and domination in your own era - now that's an entirely different discussion!
     
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  2. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We are talking about the weakest champion of all time, hence my points. I didn’t need to, it was implied. This is not a h2h post nor has it ever been.

    Saying Hart or Willard is the worst heavyweight champion is just all wrong. They achieved far more than guys like Martin and Stiverne. The weight class has changed so much that these guys would not be heavyweights today anyway.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think his life was pretty messed up by the time he started his career, and it certainly was at the time he fought Bent.
     
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  4. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    12 pages in and still folk are unclear on the criteria...wtf
     
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  5. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe I should have been more clear, just thought it was obvious this was not a h2h thread.
     
  6. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    Its been made clear several times throughout the thread....just some folk refuse to take note of it in order to push their own agenda
     
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  7. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    Once again, Rocky Marciano. I am not trying to win a popular contest. ;)
     
  8. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cause he would beat many of the people others have mentioned
     
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  9. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    STFU
     
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  10. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The run Braddock went on was wild

    Maybe I am biased cause he’s from NJ
     
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  11. stanster

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    Am I reading this right, that Usyk is the worst HW champ in history?

    Good grief. He won the belt and beat the previous CHamp twice in like his 4th/5th fight as HW. You cant call him the worst because he has only had 4 or 5 fights at the weight and a couple of tune ups before beating the champ?!:duh
     
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  12. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ignore the NEETs alt, he’s got an agenda so it’s best not to engage.
     
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  13. HomicideHank

    HomicideHank I believe in the transmigration of souls Full Member

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    Valuev, Stiverne, Seldon, Martin, Haye, Briggs, Bruno, Bonecrusher and many others.
     
  14. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    For the length of his reign then wilder has to be close.

    Can't really count one hit wonders at least they did the right thing and didn't last very long wilder was carried for years like rocky before he fought clubber lang.
     
  15. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tbh both Vitali and Wilder had very weak reigns as champions, benefitting from being fed journeymen.