WHOA!!! I just read boxing news...

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I don't know if he underestimated Margarito but I do know that he is a fundamentally more gifted fighter than Margarito and he definitely had the tools to win. I noticed he started blowing after 4 rounds though he was well ahead at this point. The pace of Margarito got to him which means there was underpreparation in his conditioning. I watched the tapes of their fight preparation. I noticed Cotto was doing lots of 400 metre sprints when his roadwork needed to based on long distance endurance. I must say I still am dissappointed about this one. PBF would have stopped Margarito doing the same thing to him that he has done to the likes of Hatton and other Mexican/Mexican style pressure fighters.

    Another reason I love Cotto is that he was in the same Olympics with man Ajose, Sam Peter, Audley Harrisson, Jermain Taylor etc. I hope he comes back well and I truly mean that.
     
  2. African Cobra

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    We were suppossed to be fighting Ted Bami originally for the Commonwealth title and he pulled out. Colin Lynes signed up to take the fight live on Sky then chickened out again then in stepped Nuubembee a bigger supposedly stronger man no one wanted to face. He thought he was going to knock us out but realised that he was in over his head. We have had many shot gun assignment such as Bradley Pryce. We went to his home town and worked on simple rule which is that we would not get the decision so we took him out. We are looking at a title eliminator to get the mandatory position hopefully Devon Alexander as he is the number 1 contender. We need the ranking to ensure Bradley defends the prestigious WBC belt against us.
     
  3. D-MAC

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    Would you have said that the blueprint for beating Cotto had been laid down by Lovemore N'dou? One could see the stamina problems emerge in that contest, with Cotto breathing heavy after the six round mark and giving away rounds down to stretch, to make it a much closer call on the scorecards that it conceiveably should have been. Margarito is just a bigger and better version of N'dou, and got the job done right because of this.
     
  4. African Cobra

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    Thanks for your advice but my man is a professional and will never fight for free.We fought for free in the amateurs never as a pro. We have fought hard to get into the position we are in. An eliminator fight cannot be for peanuts or for Witter to takle all the money to top up his pension. Witter is yesterday's man quite frankly and beating him now really does not mean much other than doing boxong a service by getting rid of him but their is price for that privilege. I can understand fighting him for peanuts if he was still the WBC champion as we would have the belt but no belt and no money does not make sense.
     
  5. African Cobra

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    This is a very interesting point. When you are going to fight a pressure monster you need to prepare properly. When PBF was preparing for Hatton he sparred many rounds with Ndou who bring pressure and bigger men like KOfi Jantuah. You notice afterwards Hatton was the one complaining about PBF's physicality, elbows etc.

    When you don't have much skill you have to go all out which Margarito. I have to respect his performance though I did not particularly like it stylistically. By way of comparison I am a big fan of both Julio Cesar Chavez and Roberto Duran. Margarito has not got anywhere near the skill level of these legends which makes it more galling for me Cotto could not adapt. It is not as if they did not know what Margarito would do.
     
  6. D-MAC

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    I just think that Cotto will always have problems with rangy bangers (pressure fighters in general actually) with good chins, who stay on top of him the whole fight, and use their own stamina as a weapon to make Cotto fight at a pace he isn't comfortable with. They know that they cannot match him technique wise, but they can push him towards the brink with their own workrate by making him increase his punch output. I noticed that Cotto, when he was doing well against Margarito, was sliding up and down the ropes and landing with crisp counters. The problems started when he started to remain stationary on the ropes, content just to use restricted head and upper movement. Cotto may be able to improve his workrate by a change in training methods; then again he may just have in-built stamina issues that are not easily solved, and which will mean that contests were he is pitted against pressure fighters with good punch resistance will always cause him discomfort.
     
  7. icemax

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    Unfortunately he left his tool box at home.
     
  8. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Others on here have said that you are OK, but to be quite honest I think that you are more than a bit of a *****. Stop talking shite and get your man between the ropes.......no ****ing excuse.
     
  9. 9Ball

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    I am sure you are exagerating somewhat but if you want your fighter to carry on fighting nobodies and earning a reputation of being scared of taking on named fighters then thats up to you. I guess you will regret it when your boy does step up in class, can't cope and gets ko'd!
     
  10. African Cobra

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    I think Duran was able to impose his will on Leonard in their 1st fight to the extent that Leonard tactically fought the wrong fight. Duran was a highly skilled assassin not the typical Latin Macho man. The key difference forme was that with all his savageness, terror, power etc he did not like to get hit and had a great defence.

    As you know I agree with you about Cotto and Margarito however the performance on the night is now giving people a warped sense of Maegarito's true standing. The truth is Cotto can definitely beat as will Paul Williams again. Santana might be able to as well. PBF definitely. Personally I was surprised ODLH turned him down as he would have got more kudos for defeating than fighting a fighter several weight divisions below like Pacman.
     
  11. African Cobra

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    Fluxstuff while I will not go into the exact details of the money at a 60/40 split we would sign and I would have bitten their hand off to get that purse split even on 2 weeks notice.
     
  12. African Cobra

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    You might think I am a ***** but your opinon on me are irrelevant quite. I might know that you are a **** and a ***** but don't really care. I will not take lectures from you about how to conduct my guys career. You are the type who thinkswe should fight for free and not have the time to train.
     
  13. African Cobra

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    The problem with you and others is that you fail to listen. The minute Witter lost the WBC title he became irrelevant. The key guys for us are Tim Bradley the WBC champion and Devon Alexander the number 1 contender. There is no gain from Witter really as defeating him does not guarantee the number contender mandatory slot like beating Devon Alexander or an official eliminator. We would still take it but not for peanuts.
     
  14. African Cobra

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    Beeston Brawler I saw your poll about me as a poster. I will forgive you for the insult and not rise to your level I think it says more about you than me quite frankly. I noticed in that thread you apologised so I will say no more about it and accept your apology publicly. Good Lad. In fact I might give you a ringside ticket for when Ajose fights for the WBC title sat beside Top Dog, Dunky, Elle, Richdam, Dwilson, Jeff Thomas and Fluxstuff.
     
  15. RichDam

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    Was a needless poll. This is a discussion forum, not a popularity contest.

    No belt and no money makes no sense.