Who'd Win Lennoxx Lewis or Sonny Liston ?

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  1. cjgloves

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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is an astonishing claim given what is in this post.


    :patsch

    You've misunderstood so completely that I now have to go back to the beginning of your first reply to me.

    I said that in the Tyson fight Lewis showed a lack of flexibility. I told you why I thought this was the case. You now think that I was disagreeing with you about Lewis being able to win a fight he has already won based upon this claim...I mean...what the ****?

    It is possible to learn about a fighter's flaws, tactical flexability or lack thereof being one of them, from watching a fight in which he wins. I think this is a good example of that. You agree. Where this confusion has come from where you think that I think that Lewis couldn't have won the fight which he won without changing strategy...i haven't a ****ing clue you crazy *******.





    To what, though? I said your parallel was horrible because you were using Winky Wright as a foil for an ATG puncher, Lennox Lewis.


    WOW HE WAS GOING FOR A POWER SHOT WOW. Listen. You might have proven why Lewis showed tactical inflexibility but you've failed to understand that this doesn't prove that his tactical inflexibilty doesn't exsist. I KNOW that Lewis is reticent in the ring if left to impact his own style on the fight because of his chin. The debate was not about why. It's about why the reticence exsists.

    Which you have inadvertently conceeded here - Lewis is overly cautious because he can be bombed out. I've never disputed that, in fact it's my entire point. What is especially funny about this is that you thought I was making your point. Nice.

    You are incredible in your one-mindedness and blindness. I am not trying to say that Rhaman was Liston. This is something you have made up in your own head. It is a non-issue and irrelevant at best, but more likely it is shutting the door before the ****ing horse has even been put in there, never mind bolted. None of this is relevant to the point, and none of this relates to your bizzare claim that "Lewis was in no danger whilst in the ring with Tyson".

    Listen carefully, really try to take this in. That can be true AND Lewis can be tactically infexible. If you are unable to build a bridge with this, just believe it as if it were a truth, like "grass is green" because it is the case, and it is important.




    :lol:

    But you don't even really know what we are talking about!

    Again - this is correct but it proves my point. Over, and over again, because you've failed compeltely to understnd what is being said, you are explaining WHY Lewis is tactically cautios rather than understanding that I am saying tht he is, and that this can harm him. Really, really try to take it in.





    I said Liston is the more adaptable fighter. I provided examples. You failed to refute them. You failed to provide examples of your fighter's tactical nous.

    Now you deride these efforts as "minor tactical changes against lesser opponents". These examples are part of a wider pattern that describe the truth of the matter. How many do you need. Ten? Five? How many can you provide for Lewis? None? Becuse that is how many you have provided.

    You didn't engage with any of those tactical adjustments on any level.




    So, having accused me of putting words in your mouth at the start of this thread you have defended saying that i "make out that Liston is some sort of genius" by calling on "semantics". Nice.
     
  3. sst

    sst Active Member Full Member

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    You have this one figgured out. Liston would beyond a doubt be looking for the exit before the fight was half over. Lewis koes the totally outclassed Liston .
     
  4. sst

    sst Active Member Full Member

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    Utter hogwash. Lewis won that fight going away. It was not even close. The hommies stole it from Lewis nothing Holyfeld did warrented a draw. It is crystal clear Lewis was in another class than Holyfeld at any time in their careers.
     
  5. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis outlanded holyfield 3 punches to 1 :patsch It was a good old fashioned stitch up, only a blind, moronic village idiot and that blind american lady could of scored it holy i gave him the 3rd round thats it :yep
     
  6. McGrain

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    What? I haven't said anywhere that the decision was good, it was a horrible travesty.
     
  7. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Please try to summarize your points!
    I got dizzy reading it all :nut
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    But, oh hell no!
     
  9. jamel

    jamel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Liston by KO and the fight is not even close. Lewis fought a way past it Holyfield, the version that beat Riddick Bowe beats Lewis
     
  10. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    You know what? I'm convinced after all.

    Lewis was nothing but an overrated, glass chinned cherrypicker.

    Liston KO 1 in less than a minute
     
  11. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis would eat Liston alive. :good
     
  12. Chucky

    Chucky BDJ Full Member

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    The aggressive Liston who destroyed Patterson steamrolls Lewis.


    Great matchup.
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    This clown was on here about a year ago, telling folks he was a genius and a Cornell graduate and came off as a complete idiot.

    He even went into keyboard warrior mode, telling us he was not to be messed with and posting pics.

    Pics that depicted a middleaged, somewhat obese fellow if I remember.

    He was ownd so many times over a couple of days that he made a lame attempt at peacemaking and ****ed off with his tail between his legs.


    I think the lad has some clinical issues, and should be laying on some shrink's couch somewhere, talking about his dysfunctional boyhood.
     
  14. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    :-((
     
  15. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Around page 10 of this thread.

    Check it out, it's comedy GOLD! :happy