Whom you think are great fighters, but who everybody hates?

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    OOps that should have gone to conversations not to the forum
     
  2. C.J.

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    Time to tuck Lou into his ignore cage again Goodnight Lou sweet dreams
     
  3. ellerbe

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    You're not blocking Lou CJ. We all know he owns real estate in your head.
     
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  4. C.J.

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    LOL tell him to try to post to me He's outta here
     
  5. C.J.

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    Playtime is over kiddies Goodnight
     
  6. Oddone

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    The Gloves.

    CJ's delusions aside, Margarito had twenty five knock outs or so prior to being caught loading his wraps before Mosley. After that he had zero knock outs.

    None.

    Power is the last thing to go, and Ramon Alvarez, whom Margarito fought to a SD win four fights after Mosley, had been previously knocked out in two rounds and was also knocked out in a few rounds in a fight after the one with Margarito.

    Margarito did have a hell of a chin though. If he made better life choices he'd be known for that.
     
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  7. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Weird how Resto and Luis were banned but not Margarito.
     
  8. drenlou

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    Margarito played the fool. Capetillo got reinstated tho in 2014. Times have changed apparently.
     
  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Many of us may not respect your opinions on Mayweather, Ward and Canelo due to your bias against them.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Glad he was not banned for life so that revenge was inflicted upon him by Cotto and Pacquiao.
     
  11. Boxed Ears

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    I can't think of anyone I think is actually a great but that I thought was typically hated and considered not great. I don't think Juan is a ring great but I really liked him and do consider him an excellent fighter for a handful of years. A likable guy that has style match-ups where he can perform as a top talent, which is a bit like an Amir Khan, but without the stellar speed that can dazzle people into rating him higher, maybe. The closest one to hated at the time (can't say anyone talks about him that I've noticed now) but who I consider a borderline great would be Chris John, who I thought was a really, really cool fighter, who was mostly unfairly known for an unpopular decision win over what most consider an all-time great fighter (and incidentally my favourite fighter of the time) in Juan Manuel Marquez. Was he actually hated? I don't think so, but it was pretty negative, if not mostly negative talk on general about him.

    Maybe a better example that is a little closer is Darchinyan, who I have argued could be fairly considered a great fighter, but who really did have an antagonistic personality in general and got a lot of mainstream attention for a guy his size, and kept taking challenges that led to him not being able to back up his big talk. Hated exactly? Seemed close sometimes, but I don't even think then really. I think people at least really liked his power and enjoyed watching him fight, and respected the fights he went for, so it kept him from really being like a standout villain that people seethed over. It's possible he would've been if he fought at higher weights.

    If you're implying that they are generally considered not great, those are maybe it for me. If you mean guys that most consider some shade of great but still hated on, obviously, I rate Mayweather as one of the best and most hated at the same time. But I don't think you mean like that.
     
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  12. C.J.

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    They are my honest opinions that I give on those three individuals my friend. Whether you agree with me or not doesn't influence my opinion in the least. There is no bias either. The facts are I have absolutely no respect for either of the three. All 3 have cheated blatantly yet neither have received the fitting punishments , received favorable decisions in fights that they did not deserve etc
    As for you saying Many of you do not respect my opinions, that is your choice BUT If you care check the forum you will find the vast majority of posters do agree with me on these matters, The only ones who continually do not agree are cheerleaders for the three named individuals. Their only comeback is to try to attack my friend Antonio Margarito & we all know why when you see those videos of Tony merely asking Floyd "Why wont you fight me"?. Floyd's blabbering & stuttering led to him really exposing & embarrassing himself in that he feared Antonio as we all saw
    All 3 of those mentioned have far more evidence against them of wrong doing than Antonio. The Csac had no proof of him being guilty of anything yet STILL refused to return his Ca boxing license because , in their own words " We SUSPECT he MAY have tried to cheat & we can do that we are the Commission !!!!!!!!
    Was that JUSTICE !!!!!!!!! Hell no but maybe you understand how we feel about the situation
     
  13. C.J.

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    That's typical LOL They couldn't even indict Tony their evidence none existant it was even laughable It only further proved the corruption in the sport
    ROFL How did Cotto inflict revenge??????? His face was still just as battered cut & bruised. The only difference was that NY doc stopped the fight in Cottos favor, NOT because of Tony's eye, he couldn't see out of it from early round 2 & that doctor knew this but didn't stop the fight till Cotto started to wilt AGAIN & Tony was beating his chest at him. only then did he stop the fight . Not to save Tony's eye, too late for that, but to save Quitto Quitting AGAIN!!!!! Quitto couldnt legitimately beat a one eyed Margarito The doc had to do it
    Also if you remember Robert Garcia complained about Pac's wraps & asked for them to be removed but Freddie refused & was let to get away with it. Was that the reason Pac has such sudden increase in punching power? Did Pac's stacked wraps cause Tony's permanently damaged eye??? I respect Pac & Freddie too much to accuse them but we will never know will we
     
  14. African Cobra

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    You just accused Pacquiao and Roach!
     
  15. C.J.

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    Easy answer.... Resto & Lewis were caught dead to rights because they had removed padding from Resto's Gloves & that's what caused the horrific damage to Billy Collins. Both were rightly banned for life
    The CSAC had no evidence Margarito had done anything wrong only the word of Nazim Richardson, which turned out to be untrue & was never again mentioned. If Tony had been proven to have tried to cheat then he would have been rightly indicted.. Suspicion isn't proof my friend errr except to the Ca state commission apparantly
     
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