whoooo wanderlei got ktfo

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  1. Tko4

    Tko4 Left high kick Full Member

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    Silva looks dead every single time he gets laid out. I think it's time he retires. Cro Cop sent his career spiraling down very, very fast. Maybe the announcers were right way back in the day: CC sends careers to the moratorium. Silva's not been the same since. And Henderson cleaned his clock pretty badly after that.
     
  2. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. It's true that Rampage shouldn't have hit him any more. But with all the bad blood between the two and the adrenaline running through them, it's no surprise he hit him some more.
     
  4. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rampage finally got revenge from silva. Rampage vs Evans should be a good fight if it happens next. :D
     
  5. Tyga

    Tyga Active Member Full Member

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    Rampage threw some unnecessary shots. But I've seen worse. Still doesn't make what he did right though. But what are you going to do? :think
     
  6. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im not to upset with Rampages actions. Its just the killer instinct him and most fighters have you keep punching until they stop you and that ref took his time and seemed to be barley trying to pull Rampage off the guy was probablly on some serious adrealine at that moment.
     
  7. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    His loses are bunching up towards the end of his career because he has not learned any new skills and his power and speed are leaving him now at the tender age of 32, everybody is better and he has not changed his MO, your can't hide in the UFC.
     
  8. LB3000

    LB3000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here is part of a interview with Rampage which I found on the Fighters Only site.

    On the importance of this fight to him in relation to the rest of his career:

    I guess this ranks number one, because this guy beat me twice. He's the only guy ever to beat me twice and I got him back. But the thing is, I knew I could beat him. He had the whole organization helping him out there in PRIDE.

    On why he believes fighting in the UFC helped him beat Wanderlei Silva:

    The UFC is real, they don't play, they don't stand a fight up because they want one guy to win, they don't play games like that. I knew I would get a fair shake in the UFC. In PRIDE, both times they helped him out a little bit. He was the champion, he was their golden boy in PRIDE and they always protected him. No more protection!


    Rampage was saying the same thing in the lead up to the 3rd fight. At first I though he was just trying to hype up the fight but is he just making excuses? I haven't seen the 2 fights fully for a while but I don't remember anything dodgy happening.

    Post fight interview with Wand
    http://www.rawvegas.tv/watch/wander...s-after-defeat/b6798ed9889be11c15dd4ff10b0ed4
    Good to see him accept his loss and not make excuses. I can understand him wanting to fight Rampage again but its best if he doesn't.
     
  9. chuffy

    chuffy ESB Hall Of Fame Member Full Member

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    Yeah i agree Jimmie, i don't blame him either ..
     
  10. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    very true, the age of the one dimentional is all but done, Chuck,CC,Tim,Hughes and Wandy have not changed their stategies much at all and it has shown the last couple years. Rampage was ready for the windmill punches and after he blocked Wandy's right hand he came back with a perfect left hook and it looked like he had it planned. Wandy still looked in great shape and was quick and explosive I don't think he's done yet maybe he can drop to 185 and start fresh there.
     
  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    This is quite true..Wandy looked great..was bouncy before the KO. He had some good low kicks..I felt his punches were tight until he got reckless again...I think he needs to train with Silva and Machida to fill in the gaps in his striking. Otherwise he didnt look like a shot fighter at all..anyone would have been koed by that punch
     
  12. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    The truth is was Wanderlei over hyped in Japan? Besides his wins over Rampage and a SD over Arona it's really not that great. it's riddled with Japenese fighters some were good but alot were just fed to him because like rampage said "he was there boy" I think it was more the Mike Tyson effect because Wandy was so exiting and vicious and came to kill every night that made him so popular. Not to take anything away from because I always liked watching him fight as well.
     
  13. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing dodgy happened...But don't take my word for it...
    just watch , that's their first fight..
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    • right at 1:23 the ref separates them..(maybe that's what he was talking about ? )... But these types of situations happened so many times , in many different fights...(and not necessarily for the "favorite" fighter )
    Also , pride had different rules...they had yellow cards , red cards..etc...
     
  14. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But this remark could be used for a lot of "top" fighters. Prime example , Mike Tyson. Fed him monumental cans , he looked scary , was a ko machine....and all his losses are against other "top" fighters...

    and in the end , what truely makes the difference between a guy like this , (who was one of the most hyped in television history) and a guy like Lennox...is that he was another "top" guy , who would also win against "top" opponents.

    In fedor's case for example...they fed him cans , b level , top competition.. a bit of everything...and he treated them all the same way.

    When that happened to Nogueira , he was also able to do the same..(excepted vs fedor...) His recent loss would be more dramatic if it would've happened 4 or 5 years earlier though. Cause the guy is just shot now..

    But it's easy to see who's the "real deal"...in any sports...the guy who owns everyone his prime... Of course , there's always a few unexpected moments even in a champ's career (for lennox , it was Rahman...that **** shouldn't have happened , but it did )

    It almost happened to fedor (vs fujita)
    Almost happened to Muhammad Ali (vs Henry Cooper )
     
  15. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Lyoto Machida is still the most deserving challenger.Beating him would be a major accomplishment.