Whos a greater fighter? Lennox or PBF?

If you're "untested" because you lopsidedly outclass all your opponents, then yes, PBF is very much "untested". But I wouldn't see that as a bad thing.

 

ok I stopped reading after that. atschatschatsch

 

No, untested against prime elite fighters.

 

But I guess Tyson and Holyfield were in their prime? atschatschatschatsch

 

Vitali.

 

Easily the dumbest thing I've read on ESB today. atsch

 

Oh yeah, what a victory that was: Lewis is gassed on his stool, panting like he's got a bullet through his lung, nearly gets KTFO'd twice and then lands a sneaky right hand and the fight gets stopped prematurely on a cut. :roll:

 

Floyd was the better fighter P4P.

Lennox has a better resume.

Their accomplishments are about equal, although I would personally favour Lewis for being more dominant over a longer period of time.

 

This poll shows me that Floyd is really the most hated on boxer on here. Granted, everyone loses, but Lennox got startched by two nobody's. Fighters that no one will think about in 20...no, 5 years from now. He was a good boxer, but he caught Holyfield andTyson both on the downsides of their careers. Mostly Tyson...having him on his resume is like ODLH having Chavez on his and Joe C bragging on beating Roy Jone Jr. This is insane. Floyd is cleary the greater fighter.

 

What he said:good

 

I'm being serious. Look, I know it stands stupid, but hear me out. Compared to the Forbes fight and the Pacquiao saga, considering the tentative Hopkins performance and the lethargy in the latter rounds against Trinidad, I thought de la Hoya wasn't that stale at all. He was using his jab effectively and managed to stop PBF potshotting (which PBF can usually do at will) for the majority of the fight. When he got tired later on, he stopped jabbing and PBF started building up a lead. That was the only obvious evidence I saw that he wasn't in his youth: his conditioning had decayed. Apart from that, he was blocking a lot of shots and his combinations were very fast. Anyone who can trap Mayweather on the ropes with his jab and actually land anything is doing well, and DLH did that quite consistently for a period. I still had PBF winning by a few rounds, but he was very much in that fight with his hand-speed and accuracy.

Look at it in relative terms: DLH's career has essentially been a string of calamitous disappointments at the top level, and, compared to the deterioration we saw in some of his other performances, I think he looked pretty sharp in that fight.

 

Bull****. McCall and Rahman were both world title holders and ranked TOP 10 Heavyweights for a long period of time. To call them "nobodies" is a joke, throw in the fact that Lewis avenged both loses and its not particularly significant.

You describe Lewis as just "a good boxer", yet his resume is clearly better than Floyd's. Lewis was the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world (an 'undisputed' title being something Floyd never even came close to), and he is a lock for Top 10 ATG HW, most people have him Top 5.

He was more than "a good boxer", he is certainly one of the greatest heavyweights there has ever been.

 

His biggest claim to fame is an almost win.atsch

 

JOKES! They were huge underdogs, and he was supposed to be great. No one picked him to lose let alone get ko'd...he avenged them like a champ is supposed to do, but don't make those two fighters beast just cause they beat him...who else did they beat? What fighter in their prime did Lexxox beat who was considered top flight at the time that they fought and ended up being worth something? Castillo, Chico, and Hatton are all bigger wins than What you can pull out for Lennox IMO.

 

There's no questioning PBF's resume and performances at the lower weights. PBf gets the criticism at LWW and above. He beat Gatti to get a 'title' when Hatton was and still is the champ. He then beats the legit welterweight champ in Baldomir then fights a bunch of natural LWWs. His overall amazing boxing ability is much better than Lewis, his resume not quite. Its a little hard to compare a heavyweight resume who only competed at one weight to man who goes up in weight to beat 'bigger' men.

Like a poster said here ability PBF, Greatness (as of now) goes to Lewis but only just. Floyd may well past him yet. Remember fighters are more appreciated after they retire. Just look at the heavyweight division after Lewis left. There are many excellent fighters in the lower weight divisions to mask FM's inactivity.

Anyone here think Floyd would be more appreciated had he stayed at 140 fought Hatton and Cotto without moving to WW?