Who's achieved more - Calzaghe or Hatton?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MON, Feb 2, 2008.


  1. majinjohn

    majinjohn Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe has achieved more and is a much better fighter aswell.
     
  2. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is absurd, and I'm a Hatton fan. Had Hatton beat Floyd, ok its a discussion, as it is now, its not close.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Jose Louis Castillo is Mexican, Mexico is not in South America.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    About to add a past-it Hopkins, in brutally dominant fashion, leaving the Hatton-ite's in the dust with no arguments.:yep

    That check hook sent most of them packing anyway, what a great job by Joy Boy in that respect.
     
  5. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    No, just sick of the hatred of good fighters. At least hate sombody who's ****.
     
  6. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    Who's hating? Most were picking your boy.:roll:
     
  7. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    "My boy"? WTF are you talking about Dan? Why are you so obsessed with Calzaghe yourself, btw?
     
  8. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    I don't get these people thinking it's definitely Calzaghe.

    You have to remember that only a couple of years back people were saying 'Why has Calzaghe's career never taken off...?'. He had no names on his record apart from an old Eubank. Since then he defeated the one dimensional Lacy and a good fighter in Kessler.

    People can criticise Hatton, but what about Calzaghe stinking up the place against Salem and then a pointless rematch against Veit??

    Calzaghe's resume is overshadowed by Hatton's.
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As a Devils Advocate, I would point out that KT is a greater fighter than Eubanks, so perhaps more credit is due there. And the question of division strength only comes into play in Calzaghe's case, because he never switched divisions. I value cleaning out the division more than winning titles in multiple weights (within reason) but Calzaghe's division, while arguably stronger than 140, was not strong anyways. So it lessens the achievment in my eyes. If Hatton had simply stayed where he was and cleaned out 140, and Calzaghe did what he did, I would still have it relatively close, since I don't think 168 is as strong as you think it is. (I think you overrate it because Calzaghe is there and has always been there)
     
  10. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many title defenses does Hatton have?
     
  11. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    I'm not I think I just make his hoards of fans uncomfortable because I am not so ready to bestow the accolades others on here seem so ready to.

    Plus the old "he's achieved more than anyone on here" comments really grate.
     
  12. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    Not sure.

    But Hatton relinquishes titles to seek better challenges.

    Calzaghe has defended a shite title and ended up fighting mandatories when he should have been making fights with Johnson (And not pulled out), Jones, Hopkins and co.
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    KT is absolutely a greater fighter than Eubank, but maybe a bit more past it than Eubank was(who looked relatively sharp against JC).

    But let's take other factors into consideration, Hatton fought Tszyu at 39 wins, tons of experience and still struggled greatly to get his victory.

    Calzaghe fought Eubank green, at 21 fights against lesser comp than Hatton fought obviously in his run up to 39 fights, and really made Eubank look like he didn't even belong in the ring with him for the majority of the fight.

    Hatton was maybe up a point by the 11th vs. Tszyu, Calzaghe took that fight 8-4 or even 9-3.

    Then let's also consider than a prime Mikkel Kessler is superior than a past-it version of Tszyu, with a prime version obviously being superior to Kessler and how Joe won that one cleanly at age 35, much less like Hatton at his physical peak.

    Do you think this is fair? I'm trying to be fair.
     
  14. Diablo

    Diablo Active Member Full Member

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    Its clearly Calzaghe...although i felt both their stock was similar for a while. But with Joe's recent wins and rickys poor displays theres day light between them.

    Calzaghe dominates his best opponents and Hatton struggles badly.

    Calzaghe beat Eubank (who had just turned 32) for his title, and defended his championship over 10 years with most notable wins coming from prime Lacy and Kessler

    Hatton beat Tszyu (who was 35 going on 36) for his title, made a few more title bouts biggest name wins being Collazo and Castillo.

    Hatton padded his record vs past prime lightweights for a long time before taking his shot...whereas Calzaghe claimed his title at a younger age making many defences

    Theres no doubt who the better fighter is..and who has acheived more.
     
  15. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    well DUH, we are not all pro boxers