Whos better ? Jermain Taylor or Joe Clazaghe

All this talk about resume is hilarious, especially when not taking into account HOW fights are won.

Taylor got two controversials over an old Hopkins.

Got a controversial draw against Wright.

This is his entire resume unless you really want to include his struggles with Ouma and Spinks, which were both embarassing for a MW champion. Or the shutout of a shot Joppy, which was fair.

So you all are telling me that 3 competitive fights with top class fighters and 2 struggle victories over 2 light hitting top fighters from a division down is automatically superior to -

Wipeout's of a Eubank(past prime), Lacy, Starie, Woodhall, Mitchell, Sheika, Brewer, Veit & a competitive but clear win over Reid?

Christ.

 

Really...So then, who stands a chance in hell of beating him?

 

Taylor doesn't have a chance against Calzaghe, this is why the fight would have never happened. Did you see how Wright used pressure and handspeed to pin Taylor against the ropes?

Take that with 3x better movement and 2x the handspeed and 3x the power. It'd be a quick wipe out and Taylor would be a fish out of water.

 

Amsterdam, you're a respectable poster but I didn't see how Taylor struggled with Ouma. I thought he beat him from pillar to post and lost maybe 2 rounds tops.

 

not a great resume in my opinion aside from Lacy and Eubank, Taylor would have blow outs against the rest. Anybody with a little knowledge of boxing can see that, if Calazaghe beats Kessler I will give him alot of credit just like I did when he beat Lacy who was overrated to begin with. Calazaghe might be a better fighter than Taylor, but his resume aint nothing to brag about he seemed a little too protected until just a couple years ago.

 

He did not struggle in scoring rounds, he struggled in the sense that Ouma's pressure was able to get to him as the fight went on and he was running out of energy, had Ouma any power what so ever, Taylor would have been in a nightmare situation.

He looked terrible.

All this talk of 'Taylor is more proven' just shows boxing fans ignorance. He is more proven, he's proven that he's much more flawed than Calzaghe against a variety of styles. The fact that someone posted that Wright would defeat Calzaghe and that Spinks would trouble him is very telling.

 

Is an old Hopkins and an old blown-up Wright really the making of a great resume?

His resume is probably more incomplete than Calzaghe's. Prime Robin Reid is a match for anyone on Taylor's.

 

All right, that's cleared up. And yes, Calzaghe would blast Taylor, with relative ease I might add. A massacre. If Wright, a smaller, less powerful, slower southpaw than Calzaghe could back Taylor up into corners and land 6 clean shots in a row than Calzaghe, who is faster, more skilled, stronger and punches harder would ruin Taylor.

 

Woodhall, Mitchell, Veit, Starie, Brewer and Reid were solid fighters. I could easily see Reid KOing Taylor, likewise with Byron Mitchell, who KOed an awesome fighter in Frankie Liles and beat a prime Manny Siaca twice.

Seeing as how Taylor has shown immense issue's with smaller fighter, how do you suppose he 'wipe's out' these bigger guys, who can impose size and punch on a very flawed guy who no longer has a size advantage?

I could easily see a big man like Brewer imposing his size and drawing Taylor into a brawl and KOing him. It's not like Taylor has shown a great chin, he's been buzzed by a featherfist in Winky.

 

I'm not entirely sold on JC, but he would ****ing kill Taylor.

 

This is all I seek, realism and you hit the nail on the head. I don't pretend that Calzaghe has an ATG resume, but his resume is also far from trash and he has proven himself against a variety of styles and has shown the ability to step up when the time comes, I feel he will come to the occassion against Kessler, who is a P4P level fighter in ability and will be a P4P top class after the Calzaghe bout win or lose.

Taylor is not even operating on the level of Kessler or Calzaghe, yet some fools seem to think that Kessler and Calzaghe both are lesser, just because they aren't familiar with either's resume and the relevance of it. Likewise on people judging solely on names and not how fights went.

I can tell you right now that Mikkel Kessler would have pasted Ouma in a round or two and I tell you in full confidence. Kessler and Taylor are about the same size....

 

It is just plain stupid to compare Calzaghe to Wright. They are totally different fighters with totally different m not saying that it is unlikely that Calzaghe would win, im just saying that its foolish to say Jermain Taylor has no chance. When people make statements like that they sound less credible because it shows an obvious preferance towards a fighter.

 

Well how about this mate -

I don't like Kelly Pavlik at all, but Taylor has little chance for victory in my opinion.

Anybody who can pressure and carries competent skill with a bigger mans punch is going to do him in. Calzaghe pressures and swarms like a mad man and would be the hardest puncher that Taylor would have ever faced, not to mention the quickest(Spinks' speed troubled him for christ sakes).

It's not preferance, it's just good forecasting...

 

I wouldnt say Taylor got buzzed by Winky but ok, I see your point but Taylor has beat an all-time legend twice in Hopkins which is no easy no feat. Wether you like it or not Taylor is trying to fight the best in his division time after time, I cant say the same about Calazaghe the man has not fought the best throughout his career as his resume suggests. Dont get me wrong I think Calazaghes a great fighter, just a little too well protected for someone with his talents.

 

Maybe a bit avoided?