Who's closer to being an ATG Miguel Cotto or James Toney?

You log off fool. Toney is clearly a level above Cotto and is already a top 100 ATG.

 

the one question i asked, you conveniantly ducked. if jirovs so good, then list me his 5 best victories :think

 

We are not talking about an old, brain damaged, steroid cheat. We are talking about a young James Toney in his prime. You are judging a guy by his worst performances, and with your bias. You can **** on any fighter in that fashion. You are biased against the guy, or you have never trained enough to see how difficult it is to put on a display like he has done in many of his fights. :good

 

yeah thats right, james toney only ever took steroids the 3 times he was caught nutpatsch:rofl

the fact that you just want to sweep what an absolute disgrace james toney is under the carpet means that you are nothing more than a delusional fanboy with a giant **** swinging from your forehead

shortnobs opinion in this thread = worthless :deal

 

:rofl:roflatschatsch You clearly don't know much about boxing.

Log off now before you embarrass yourself further.

 

Jirov could only beat the fighters that were put in front of him. So, those wins are not worthy of mention. He was an Olympic Gold Medalist and World Champion, and that can't be put down. If you had actually ever fought you would see the difficulty that James dealt with in beating Jirov. I know the sport. I don't need boxrec to make me look credible. It's not about record. It's about how you perform in fights with the bodies that are put in front of you. Jirov was a good fighter, and a tough *******. I know this because I saw him fight. :hi:

 

But Holyfield had a pretty good showing after that against a much bigger man in Nikolai V. and he deserved a draw or W in the first Peters fight, in my opinion. Masterful boxing there. Cotto's best win is ... ughghghghghghghghghhghgghhg Zab Judah. Zab is not elite in anything except speed and power, and never wins big fights. Cotto's run at 154 is smoke and mirrors, unfortunately. I expected him to destroy Pac. :good

Toney: wins over much naturally bigger guys who can arguably be called good fighters
Cotto: TKO loss to much much smaller man who can arguably be called a great fighter in an ATG sense and tight spots against Torres, Corley, and a greatest wins over Zab (ugh, once again) and Quintana. I think Mosley deserved the decision against Cotto, he was backpedaling in the last rounds.
hmm.

 

Cotto couldnt hold Toney's jockstrap in terms of technical ability and natural skills

 

James fought Holyfield in 2003, and in my opinion and many more here, beat Sam in their 1st fight 3 years later. Their 2nd fight in 2007 was a disciplined and ready Sam Peter. He took what was left of James.

 

why are you so scared to write what jirovs 5 best victories are short nob?

toney is a steroid riddled disgrace, you are no fan of boxing, your just a delusional fanboy with a crush for tap-out queens :deal

 

Ridiculous and borderline offensive thread.

Toney's resume as of 1991 >>>>> Cotto's entire career.

 

Your old lady says that I have a huge knob, *****. I love keyboard warriors. Punks like you make me :yep. Again, as I said before, boy, those of us in the know see skill. We don't need boxrec.

 

Toney both skill and resume wise. Cotto is not HOF worthy