Who's fault is it that opkins vs Jones 2 didn't happen

That was different, both were in theri prime and of course Jones was the

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Anyway it goes, Jones was right by asking for the most money. That was Hop trying to be independent at the time. If he was with Goldenboy during that time, he would have to that offer

 

Both men were to blame for this fight not happening ..Two big Egos are difficult to negotiate with.

 

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Stick to the argument. You clearly said that Roy's past ppv numbers and t.v ratings were irrelevant. This would mean that his marketability would not come into play in regards to financial negotiations. This a clearly flawed assumption. Never once did I say B-Hop attracted more ppv $ than Jones(although it's not like Roy was putting up good ppv numbers anyway)

 

No one cares about a win he got over Hopkins almost a decade earlier. And Roy was not a big draw. He puts up bigger ppv numbers with Hopkins than any other fighter at the time. Negotiations are all about who brings what to the table financially.

 

And i still dont think they matter. For Roy it was all about the fact that he owned a win over Hopkins and that he was the recognized PFP#1 fighter.

 

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Mayweather was the no.1 p4p fighter and owns a win over Hoya. Do you think it would've been reasonable for him to ask for 60% in a rematch? Would Hoya have been unreasonable if he turned down that proposal? I'm not saying Hopkins was that type of draw. My point is that status and prior wins(especially ones that happened almost a decade earlier) are not what determines a purse split in normal negotiations.

 

Show me Roy's ppv numbers at the time. Show me his live gate and attendance numbers, show me the T.V ratings. If you're going to make these claims, show me proof. And how would Roy make more fighting Tito when Tito was retired?

 

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i cant argue this anymore. Im getting tired.. you win! :dead

 

Show me Hop's and we can be even or Hop didn't get PPV or that type of treatment because he was never a draw. Think of it as if you were in Jones shoes

 

Don't do it , but you know as well as I do along with most of these posters who desreved the money.

 

Hopkins, he should have taken the 60/40 split Jones was offering.

 

My argument isn't that Hopkins was a big draw. Your argument is that Roy was a big draw. Therefore, you need to produce the numbers for Roy. I need not show any Hopkins' numbers. Roy needed a legitiamte threat in order to put up good numbers. Nard was on of the few men who could provide this challenge. Supply and demand indicates that a 60/40 split in Roy's favor is nowhere near as fair as Roy fans are making it out to be.