Who's fault was it that DLH/PBF sucked?

i see most of you dont agree with me about the size thing .look oscar maybe have a slight size advantage but definitely not major it is not like looking at a welter vs a middle someone posted the oscar vs floyd weigh in now show me the hopkins vs hoya weigh in then state the difference.taller and longer does not mean bigger it just means longer.for the whitaker fight , pea was a completely different fighter who loved to mix it up and he had a proven chin.

 

Exactly, that was my point.

You are wrong about Zab only have success in rounds 2 and 4. He was very successful from rounds 1 through 5. Watch again. After that, Zab became his normal inconsistent self.... with the held of Floyd adjusting as well and fighting a better fight.

Yes, Oscar does have the handspeed to counter Floyd. If you don't believe that, then you are kidding yourself. He isn't as fast as he was in his prime, but he is still fast enough to land a counter on anyone. Hell even Chop Chop was able to buzz Floyd with a good counter. You are making him out to superhuman, and he isn't. He is beatable, everyone is.

 

I have watched that fight plenty of times. Round 1, neither one of them really did anything. In round 5, Judah barely did anything for the first 2:30, then had a good flurry at the end of the round. This is hardly what I would consider, sustained success. Judah was hitting Floyd with counter right hooks and uppercuts. Sorry, but Oscar will be hard pressed to land a counter uppercut on Floyd. It's very hard for an orthodox fighter to land counter right hooks on another orthodox fighter. Corely countered him because Floyd squared himself up and was throwing bombs. If you really think he would do that against Hoya then you're crazy.

 

I gave Zab 4 rounds....1, 2, and 4. But those rounds what Zab won were a lot closer than Mayweather's rounds.

 

Oscar can land counter left hooks. Check his fights...

We simply disagree.

 

I gave him 4, I think he won one of the later rounds AFTER the brawl and low blow.

For the record, I think Judah was about to be stopped.

 

That's 3 rounds. I'm guessing you also gave the 12th to Zab. Yeah, round 1 could've gone either way. Rounds 2 and 4 were pretty close as well. It's no suprise 1 judge gave Zab only 1 round

 

I wasn't talking about left hooks, I clearly said right hooks. Floyd would be looking for that left hook all day. I don't think it's much of a coincidence that he barely threw any lead straight rights.

 

Just like Floyd is looking for right hooks against Left handers... but still got hit with them. That is my point. Floyd wasn't forced to throw punches like that. Oscar pressed the action and let Floyd counterpunch. If Oscar made Floyd come to him, it would be a different story.

 

Landing a right hook on an orthodox fighter is alot easier than landing a left hook. Furthermore, Floyd was weary of that right hook in the beggining of the Zab fight. In the early going he kept hitting him with the lead straight right then holding. There were parts of the DLH fight were Hoya was standing there and got picked apart. IMO, I don't think trying to play the role of the counterpuncher will result in much success against Mayweather.

 

Yeah I forgot to list round 12.