Who's greater all time? Bhop or RJJ?

Is it so hard to understand what I write? It´s not as if I´m writing in German, is it?

So, again, just for you. Me on Jones´ win over Hopkins:

and here my opinion on Hopkins´win over Jones.

Got it know? :roll:

 

Not really whether this is worth responding to, given that Jones didn't beat Ruiz and had "shaky moments" vs Pazienza?:huh

 

Me neither, but I bet it was important to him on a symbolic level. He did "avenge" himself, regardless of the details, though we shouldn't rate it.

 

Sorry for remembering and understanding what i saw and mentioning it here.
Did Jones had Ruiz down or even just hurt ?
Didn't he hold against an aggressive undersized and aged Pazienza ?
Like his wins over Pazienza , Toney and McCallum really worth anything .
Jones didn't beat Hopkins in their first fight either.
Actually in the second fight he did , by a body punch KO which went by undetected because the ref allowed Hopkins to cheat his way out of it as usual.

 

wtf? Frankenfrank you are one gay ****** who needs a good ass raping.

 

I agree. It was the only clear loss in his career, the only one were he couldn´t say that he should have won. He needed to settle this score for himself.

 

Has taking a BBC up d A while drunk made you cherish the moment of losing your virginity to the point you want everyone to join your experience ?

 

Some decisions arent made with us, the outsiders and fans, in mind.

Bernard wanted to fight Roy since Roy beat him. He was not going to leave boxing without beating the man. On the decline or no.

Every expert I knew predicted that if the fight didn't happen when they were both pound for pound kings, it would later on. And it did. Roy was helpless, BHop got his payback. To me, historically, thats where it ends.

 

It's got to be Jones.

 

He was dropped twice and outboxed in several other rounds. He was a sucker for Mercado's counter right uppercut. On what planet is that "dominating"?

So was Fernando Vargas just reaching his prime at 28? Did Tarver or Glen Johnson look "deteriorated" when they clobbered Jones at 35?

Why doesn't your post on Page 1 credit Hopkins with beating a "prime Glen Johnson"? :nono Even YOU don't believe these fantasy "rules" that you're just making up here.

If you actually watch him (rather than just make inferences, as you've done here), you'll see he still had a lot of holes in his defense and was getting hit with the kinds of punches from Mercado and Allen that he would be avoiding from far superior fighters several years later.

The second half of Glen Johnson's career clearly proves otherwise.

 

hopkins avenged the jones loss because he's a stickler for legacy. why do you think he didn't fight at 168? no history there... why do you think he periodically calls up clinton mitchell offering him large sums for a rematch? i like that hopkins cares about his legacy, even if some of the details (e.g. mitchell and a lesser extent jones) are irrelevant details.