Who's greater: Wladimir Klitschko or Mike Tyson?

I see what you're saying. . . Tyson beat a plethora of upper echelon journeymen, and 2-3 fringe world class skill level type guys (in terms of their skill, not necessarily their world ranking at the time). . . Had a slew of vicious KO's against C-B level opposition. . And youngest world HW champion. . . Nobody had seen anything like him before. . His brutality, aggression. . . His shark like head movement stalking guys down. . His underrated technique on his punches, especially hooks, and uppercuts. . . His power, and speed. . . How he intimidated guys, making them **** their pants during stare-downs. . . That's why I completely understand people who were hardcore boxing fans at that time rating him so highly. . They were just awestruck by him. . . Maybe for me, the Klitschkos are kind of the same way. . I might overrate them a bit because they are "my era/generation's" HW BEAST(S).

But for me, the longevity of one's career is part of what makes you great. . .

If Wladimir ends up retiring with some ridiculous record like 70-3(60+ KO's), and breaks, ties, or comes close to breaking the record for consecutive defenses, he would most definitely be rated above Tyson. . Even in his era, which really isn't much weaker than Tyson's run from 86-90, that is ****ing impressive. . In this day and age, for a boxer to have 70 wins with a crazy KO ratio, and that many defenses. .


But I honestly can't be buggered to literally break down why I think AT LEAST 14 HW's (breaking down each and every one) right now deserve to be placed above Tyson, but to keep it simple: Longevity, and quality of wins. . . Nobody would read it because it would be so awfully, bloody long, and detailed. . .

 

Tyson in every way.And at his prime he would have beat the **** out of Wlad for the brief time his chin held up. And i like Wlad.

 

Tyson was a greater STAR, but a greater boxer? Maybe, but since his fans always has to bring up the "he was past his prime"-argument I wonder a bit. Wlad has never needed that excuse, because he keeps in shape and keeps winning.

And by the way, I think Tyson would do Wlad prime for prime.

 

:smoke The numbers favour VLAD and anyone who thinks MIKE beats him head to head needs their head checked .:hi:

 

I would pick Wladimir prime for prime. . . Wladimir's fleetness of hand, and especially foot, is very underrated. . . He didn't have the hand speed, nor explosiveness that Tyson did, but I'd say he was every bit as fleet of foot as Tyson. . Shorter, compact HW's like Tyson can always get that waist/torso movement into their punches, and explode out. . .

But Wladimir has that leverage - DAMN, I just can't see Tyson standing up to that straight right hand from Wladimir. . .

From the outside, it's no contest. . . On the inside, it's no contest (edge Tyson). . . HOWEVER, Wladimir is one of the best at tying guys up. . . So while Tyson wouldn't have much of a remedy for Wlad trying to weave his way inside (except his head movement, which can only slip so many punches), Wlad would have a remedy for Tyson on the inside. . .

I see Wladimir as the smarter of the two, with the higher ring IQ, no doubt about it. . .

I think Wlad would implement his game, and make Tyson eat jabs, and straight rights like pancakes, and waffles for the first 3 rounds. . . Tyson would have some moments, but everytime he would unleash a combo, Wlad would tie him up, and lean on him before he could get his rapid fire going on. . . Tyson would eventually lose his legs completely from a straight right. . . Doing a stanky leg retreating to the ropes. . Wlad jumps in with his left hook, and Tyson's rendered unconscious

 

Prime Tyson would slip Wlad's jab easily, and eat one or two
right hands at most before knocking Wlad out with a left hook.
Tyson up to and in the Lewis fight had an iron chin. WLAD
Would need to pummel Tyson all night with the right hand,
that wuld only work against a shot to **** Tyson. Even 96 to
2000 Tyson would test Wlads chin. Wlad hit Brewster with
everything he had in the first fight and Brewster survived and
scored the ko, Tysons chin is atg, and way above Brewsters.
Depending on the ref, WLAD miight get dqed for clinching. These
issues are post Prison TYson. 80s Tyson KO2 Wlad.

 

No way. . . Tyson's kryptonite, PRIME TYSON's kryptonite was somebody with: 1.) A long, stiff, POWERFUL, straight JAB. . . 2.) Somebody with equal, or greater overall power than him. . . 3.) Somebody MENTALLY strong, i.e. NOT afraid, or intimidated of him. . . PRIME Wlad has all three. . .

We saw what Buster mah****ing Douglas did to his ass. . . And YES, that was a PRIME Tyson. . . Don't give me any of those bull**** excuses. . That boy got his ASS WHIPPED. .

Like Roger Mayweather said: Don't be scared of that mother****er. . Buster mother****ing Douglas went in there and knocked that mother****er out. .

Wladimir would do the same, but quicker, and without taking the damage Tyson inflicted on Buster.

 

First of all, Mike didnt show up to the Douglass fight mentally,
thats obvious. The personal problems in Tyson's life at the time
were monumental. Douglass used the death of his mother as
inspiration and put on a great performance, but could have been
counted out when he got knocked down. Wlad never fought like
that. Prime for prime this fight would be over before the opening
bell rang. Wlad is not fearless, he shows no fear against people
that have no chance of beating him. Wlad would be scared ****
of a killer like Tyson. Wlad's chin is shaky and he is not mentally
Strong. When did Wlad overcome adversity? Sam Peter 1. Props
to getting the UD but Wlad couldnt finish him. Wlad panics
when he gets pressured and hit. Focused Tyson would have
Beat Douglass. Wlad never faced anyone with the speed,power,
chin or fearlessness of Tyson. Youre severely underestimating
Mikes chin. You wanna talk about ass whipping Sanders vs
Klitschko. Wlads chin has improved but hes not handling
Tysons onslaught. Wlad is either getting koed early, or
clinching his way to a UD loss. Tyson showed a lot of
heart in his losses. Wlad would literally not know
what hit him.

 

Although tyson was a zillion times more exciting, Wlad's accomplished much more, not even close imo

 

91% of the scene thinks Prime Lewis beat Prime Wlad (go check)

75% of ESB on the same poll here think Prime Lewis beat Prime Wlad

both sites can't be ******ed now can they?

So if Prime Wlad will 'ko' Tyson

Then Prime Lewis will literally Ko Tyson with a ****ing jab right?

stfu you racist mongronrel inbred piece of **** with your racist bull****

and hate against Black Fighters.


post more pictures of your back you ****ing piece of ****

 

King Khan is racist? Certainly not as racist as you are dude...........:hi:

 

I dislike and root against African-American Fighters, Pinoy Fighters, Mexican Fighters and Eastern European Fighters.

That is a bias, not racism.


:deal

 

No his hate is only against one kind of fighter

Blacks.

I root against Pinoys, Blacks, Eastern Euros, Jews, ****s, AND Mexicans. Root against them

He HATES Blacks, that is racism. There is a difference between rooting against them and hating them

hence he is a true racist.

 

Mike Tyson off course, this is too east to answer. Just ask yourself this, if prime Mike Tyson and Wladimir Klitschko would fight, who do you think would win?

 

also @ruskull, you are a piece of ****ing ****

Go end yourself irl, moron, I am sick of your god damn avatar polluting every thread.

At least find a better picture and not one that make your fighter look like a inbred ****** ******